Actually, UI & UX come together. User Interface, as the word say, presents in lay words, something users see as they open for example application or website - the interface, in the other words, anything user can interact with. Well now, when we observed the UI, in design it's not everything about how it looks. We, as designers, must make user the comfortable place to be - design should be trustworthy, credible & useful.
So when you "compress" all the things of UI and UX which is a bigger story itself, you get a great design.
To explain in more detail, I like to use comparisons. Imagine having a good brand with nice logo and everything and you see that brand for the first time and tell yourself "huh, what a nice company it must be". On the first sight logo might be great, but overall visual identity and for example website, don't give a sense of credibility - which makes you not pull out your credit card for that sick looking t-shirt. That's a bad User experience, which makes you not coming back to that site.
Designers sometimes have to put themselves in psychologist's skin and think few steps forward about the synergy of beauty / attractiveness & the usage / feelings of the design.
For me, it's like beautiful woman with bad habits and bad manners - sorry if I'm too unpleasant. 😐
That's the shortest i could haha, and thanks for stepping by my friend! 😄
Hey @tonac, I would rather say that the UI is inside the UX. You have to consider the UI as a part of the UX and less important. We understand each other, UI is important. But think of it; a website with a good UI but bad UX is so much unpleasant than a website with a bad UI and a good UX.
Please, reconsider your analogy with women, everyone has bad habits and bad manners. 😅 Judging someone about these kinds of things is a bit... Odd. Especially if you want to become a UX designer, it means that you have to be open-minded and want to work with a lot of different kind of people! 🤩 I would rather say that UI without UX is like a juicer that would split the juice everywhere, except in your glass. Here, Don Norman made an excellent conference with a lot of examples! All of these objects are beautiful, but the user experience is so bad that you will never use these items in fact.
Your designs are really cool! Thank you for sharing! Maybe use a lighter colour for your red buttons? To have better contrast, it will be more readable.
Not quite sure how have you ended up in here after all these days, but I'm actually very glad!
I totally agree with your comment, that comparison wasn't maybe 100% on point, but I'm also happy you've recognized what I wanted to say.
"Especially if you want to become a UX designer, it means that you have to be open-minded and want to work with a lot of different kind of people!"
You're right here, that's the fact we have to accept, and in matter a fact it's fully positive thing. UX analysis always come up with many different opinions, which makes every project unique.
Cool to have you here Laura 💚
No problem dear, happy to have this communication, and I'm looking forward for many more.
Also, I'm proud to be your first follower! You're gonna rock here on Hive. 😄
a website with a good UI but bad UX is so much unpleasant than a website with a bad UI and a good UX.
@lauweded In a generic situation this may be true, but I would always say it depends. Good and Bad are always a line, not a point. And if the UI/visual design is pleasant and make you happy, you tend to ignore some ux flaws and report that everything is great. Another reason why we should not always believe users, when they say a website or product is great, you should also observe how they use it.
It is actually intended UX/UI search I am making. I am gonna try to create a UX/UI community and searching for people interested in the topic. If you want you can join here: @tonac You will probably wonder much more, how I ended here too :Dhttps://ecency.com/created/hive-12358
Hey mate, yes definitely this was a random comment 🤣
I'll gladly join, actually I've already joined the community and I wish it to grow and have a success. It's nice topic, extensive, but still focused. It has a big potential, and soon as I get some time for blogging I might consider writing in yours. Thanks for stepping by, it's nice seeing your effort on making the community grow, I like that!
Of course! That is the way both of us (plus people aside) get some improvement or ways to find new knowledge. If you need any advice (both technical and creative) I'll gladly help you if that would be possible. Also if you'd need me to make some content for your community to pin it I would be flattered! This is the time we should seize the opportunity to grow. Also, this is a rare thing both of us and everyone inside can get a win-win (win) situation and we might get some profit from it as well!
If you need to contact me I can send you my discord ID or something else you're using. Be well my man!
I don't really agree with you. I agree that when the UI/visual design is really excellent, our eyes are happy and you don't really pay attention to the UX... BUT only in the short term, because users who struggle with your app's flow will surely don't use your app again. Products (app or website) that can help gain time or money because of their excellent UX, in the end, users will use it, even if the UI/visual design is not perfect. The UI is an accessory, it let the UX be way better! But if you don't have a good UX at the beginning, the UI is kind of useless... Well beautiful to see, but not beautiful to use.Hey @brutalisti ! It's great to have people to discuss with people about UX ✨
Another reason why we should not always believe users, when they say a website or product is great, you should also observe how they use it.
It is really funny because your sentence contradicts itself 🌸. First of all, if you design a product, you should always trust the users, because you design products for them and with them. As you said, we have to observe how they use it, so if they say that they struggle with the flow, we have to trust them, right?
Actually, UI & UX come together. User Interface, as the word say, presents in lay words, something users see as they open for example application or website - the interface, in the other words, anything user can interact with. Well now, when we observed the UI, in design it's not everything about how it looks. We, as designers, must make user the comfortable place to be - design should be trustworthy, credible & useful.
So when you "compress" all the things of UI and UX which is a bigger story itself, you get a great design.
To explain in more detail, I like to use comparisons. Imagine having a good brand with nice logo and everything and you see that brand for the first time and tell yourself "huh, what a nice company it must be". On the first sight logo might be great, but overall visual identity and for example website, don't give a sense of credibility - which makes you not pull out your credit card for that sick looking t-shirt. That's a bad User experience, which makes you not coming back to that site.
Designers sometimes have to put themselves in psychologist's skin and think few steps forward about the synergy of beauty / attractiveness & the usage / feelings of the design.
For me, it's like beautiful woman with bad habits and bad manners - sorry if I'm too unpleasant. 😐
That's the shortest i could haha, and thanks for stepping by my friend! 😄
Hey @tonac, I would rather say that the UI is inside the UX. You have to consider the UI as a part of the UX and less important. We understand each other, UI is important. But think of it; a website with a good UI but bad UX is so much unpleasant than a website with a bad UI and a good UX.
Please, reconsider your analogy with women, everyone has bad habits and bad manners. 😅 Judging someone about these kinds of things is a bit... Odd. Especially if you want to become a UX designer, it means that you have to be open-minded and want to work with a lot of different kind of people! 🤩 I would rather say that UI without UX is like a juicer that would split the juice everywhere, except in your glass. Here, Don Norman made an excellent conference with a lot of examples! All of these objects are beautiful, but the user experience is so bad that you will never use these items in fact.
Your designs are really cool! Thank you for sharing! Maybe use a lighter colour for your red buttons? To have better contrast, it will be more readable.
Not quite sure how have you ended up in here after all these days, but I'm actually very glad!
I totally agree with your comment, that comparison wasn't maybe 100% on point, but I'm also happy you've recognized what I wanted to say.
You're right here, that's the fact we have to accept, and in matter a fact it's fully positive thing. UX analysis always come up with many different opinions, which makes every project unique.
Cool to have you here Laura 💚
Haha you were on my recommended feed, I didn't check when it was posted, funny. Thank you for your benevolence answer 🎇
No problem dear, happy to have this communication, and I'm looking forward for many more.
Also, I'm proud to be your first follower! You're gonna rock here on Hive. 😄
@lauweded In a generic situation this may be true, but I would always say it depends. Good and Bad are always a line, not a point. And if the UI/visual design is pleasant and make you happy, you tend to ignore some ux flaws and report that everything is great. Another reason why we should not always believe users, when they say a website or product is great, you should also observe how they use it.
It is actually intended UX/UI search I am making. I am gonna try to create a UX/UI community and searching for people interested in the topic. If you want you can join here:
@tonac You will probably wonder much more, how I ended here too :D https://ecency.com/created/hive-12358
Hey mate, yes definitely this was a random comment 🤣
I'll gladly join, actually I've already joined the community and I wish it to grow and have a success. It's nice topic, extensive, but still focused. It has a big potential, and soon as I get some time for blogging I might consider writing in yours. Thanks for stepping by, it's nice seeing your effort on making the community grow, I like that!
😊 Thank you for being supportive! I will also gladly accept any advice and criticism, when thing get rolling.
Of course! That is the way both of us (plus people aside) get some improvement or ways to find new knowledge. If you need any advice (both technical and creative) I'll gladly help you if that would be possible. Also if you'd need me to make some content for your community to pin it I would be flattered! This is the time we should seize the opportunity to grow. Also, this is a rare thing both of us and everyone inside can get a win-win (win) situation and we might get some profit from it as well!
If you need to contact me I can send you my discord ID or something else you're using. Be well my man!
@tonac , Great, I did send you a message in Hive chat
I don't really agree with you. I agree that when the UI/visual design is really excellent, our eyes are happy and you don't really pay attention to the UX... BUT only in the short term, because users who struggle with your app's flow will surely don't use your app again. Products (app or website) that can help gain time or money because of their excellent UX, in the end, users will use it, even if the UI/visual design is not perfect. The UI is an accessory, it let the UX be way better! But if you don't have a good UX at the beginning, the UI is kind of useless... Well beautiful to see, but not beautiful to use.Hey @brutalisti ! It's great to have people to discuss with people about UX ✨
It is really funny because your sentence contradicts itself 🌸. First of all, if you design a product, you should always trust the users, because you design products for them and with them. As you said, we have to observe how they use it, so if they say that they struggle with the flow, we have to trust them, right?
The shortest :)
I knew that I am poking into the wasp's nets with the question.
It was intentional, of course.
Thanks a lot for your answer. I am certain that it will be interesting to all who read this post.