Like watching grass grow

in OCD4 years ago

Nice to see a little bit of interest in HIVE coming through the exchanges, however short or long lived it may be. It is of course all speculation, with almost 7 million volume on Bithumb Korea since it opened for trading a couple hours ago. That is around 26 million HIVE changing hands back and forth. While this is great, I am always in two minds as to how much affect market movements have on growing the community itself, as there are plenty of coins with a lot of volume but not much else happening around them. I find it strange that Hive gets so overlooked, considering that it has a lot of activity that isn't just tokens changing hands.

We are a few weeks away from the next Hardfork, which is scheduled for September the 28th and will clean up some of the blockchain code and hopefully, go off without a hitch. The Hardforks I have been witness to over the last 3+ years have generally been plagued with testing issues, with some having some very undesirable affects on the chain - if anyone remembers the introduction of Resource Credits and an oversight effectively shutting down the chain for a few days.

While not everyone here now was here then, it is good to understand that there are risks in any changes to the code and a tiny error can bring in some pretty dramatic results. The most important thing in my experience as an enduser is to not panic and instead have a laugh at it all. For those on Discord, unless you like drama, look for rooms and people that are not drama mongers who feed off the emotional disruption they can create.

At least from my perspective, very little good comes out of panicking, yet when people feel their investment is under threat and can't directly do anything to affect circumstances, they tend to cluster together and rile each other up into a frenzy. It is pretty useless - but makes the leaders of the drama feel important. Again from my experience, people that feel important by generating drama are not to be trusted in their perspectives or abilities - People who understand what is going on well, don't panic, nor cause panic - unless it is the panic that they benefit from - so they find manipulative ways to encourage it.

In some ways, they are like politicians who are incentivized to turn some percentage of the audience against others, so to play them off against each other while taking the spotlight attention in the middle. Whenever there are issues on the chain, there will be dormant wannabes who will spring into action to seize the opportunity to feed their attention-seeking hole to feel relevant. It is interesting to think that some people are only relevant when there is trouble afoot, but people feeling fear tend to cling to anything that supports their position or makes them feel safe.

These days, I think people are so addicted to their emotional reactions with so little control over their automatic responses, that people prefer to dive headlong into the drama cycle that feeds their feeling-eating animal. It is the way of the internet, where we gather around social movements of some kind or another so that we can feel part of a group and when that movement inevitably dies, there are several others to choose from. Consistency doesn't come into it.

Sometimes, it is better to just step away and do something else.

At any one time, there are multiple activities that we can do that can add value to our experience, either directly from the task itself or indirectly if the task is something that supports a greater position. For me at the moment, the choice is pretty simple as there is always something to do on the house and currently, there are multiple things. A lot of them aren't fun such as removing scrap material (which I am about to go do), but are necessary in order to move onto the next phase, the next pump, the greater high.

While we all love the peaks, the majority of our experience is defined by the foundation we build below. Foundation building might not be exciting, but if you want to see green, you have to plant and nurture the seeds.

Time to life some heavy things.

Taraz
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I remember the RC issue fork. One advantage of Hive is we do not have a steemit style account/application lording over it. It was a simple fix so they said for an issue that effected steemit and steemit only at the time, prior to the RC issue. People cautioned about testing and reviewing the fix, but the fix was in, boom steemits issue resolved...opps now everyone was effected, the fix for steemit caused the RC issue, because of a decimal point got over looked, or something.

I hope if some thing happens on the fork that people allow time for testing the fix and that the developers don't just take one developers word that this will fix the issue.. I am looking forward to the first HF, but I think the telling ones, the ones that will show the direction Hive takes will be the next two forks. This fork seems to be mostly a cleanup the code fork and a finalization of Hives separation from Steem.

BTW...Is that the little grass patch you and smallsteps planted not to long ago?

Yeah, it was a little oversight issue with a tiny fragment of code that caused the RC depletion issue I think

I am looking forward to the first HF, but I think the telling ones, the ones that will show the direction Hive takes will be the next two forks

Yep. This one is clean up - the next ones will hopefully be directed at building the ecosystem and user base.

BTW...Is that the little grass patch you and smallsteps planted not to long ago?

Yeah, I might have to mow it this weekend :) It is a little patch in places, but at least it gives the sense of green. After the winter thaw, I will see the uneven patches and fill them in in spring again.

I hadn't seen that we had a scheduled date. That's a really good thing. This HF addresses chain level things that need to be fixed from HF 24 which was necessarily done in a big rush. I sincerely hope (and I think) that the testing is ongoing and has been reviewed quite thoroughly. Now that there's a scheduled date we the people will get a chance to break things. Another good thing.

I still have a bellyache with the RC credits. Not the fact of them at all, but the number system. I am a small stake holder and I have over 18 billion. That is 18,xxx,xxx,xxx.933. I still think it was an effort to baffle the public with bullshit. ANY number like this can be expressed accurately enough in 4 digits (with the decimal point providing 4 more) for the purpose. It becomes a number that no human can comprehend. Ugggghhhh.

So. Panic and drama and euphoria are pretty corrosive threads. I'll tread lightly around discord for the next couple of days.

Thanks for another thoughtful post.

I still have a bellyache with the RC credits. Not the fact of them at all, but the number system.

I have brought this up too, why is it that crypto people love ridiculously large and unwieldy numbers?

So. Panic and drama and euphoria are pretty corrosive threads. I'll tread lightly around discord for the next couple of days.

The fork is tentatively set for September 8th - still have some time to build a bomb shelter ;D

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Wow... so many things I've learnt from this post
1."At least from my perspective, very little good comes out of panicking"

I totally agree with you. Panicking is usually more deteimental than beneficial even healthwise.

2."While we all love the peaks, the majority of our experience is defined by the foundation we build below. Foundation building might not be exciting, but if you want to see green, you have to plant and nurture the seeds."

There is so much wisdom in what you just said above and i hope to spend more time building a better foundation for my life.

With men like you that think in light hive is definitely getting better and better.
Thanks alot for your post

From a position of true panic - I am not sure if much good can be accomplished ever - as there is no control. I have seen some insanity come out of people in chat rooms.

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From first-line support experience, I can say one thing for sure - informed people are a whole lot calmer.

Now the question in a decentralized system is - who's responsibility is to inform// to be educated/informed. I think a lot of "users" approach this as being users, and therefore expect a centralized approach of "being informed", not realizing that in a decentralized system THEY are massively a part of the system, and if they don't go out looking for information, educating themselves on how the whole thing operates in the first place then they don't really have anyone else to blame but themselves, sure they might not realize that but.. oh, well..

So, thank you, for being one of the loud voices that get these messages out there, and hopefully, we can have a calmer, more relaxed Hardfork.


Hugs&Coffee,
~Josie~

informed people are a whole lot calmer.

This is true and I think it is also who people turn to in times of crises. One of the problems is that some people believe themselves to be informed enough to rally others.

think a lot of "users" approach this as being users, and therefore expect a centralized approach of "being informed",

I completely agree. There are some areas that unless a dev working on the code, there is no visibility for users at all - so I have been trying to encourage some more public insight on these things - as uninformed people get restless.

and hopefully, we can have a calmer, more relaxed Hardfork.

🤞

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Again from my experience, people that feel important by generating drama are not to be trusted in their perspectives or abilities - People who understand what is going on well, don't panic, nor cause panic - unless it is the panic that they benefit from - so they find manipulative ways to encourage it.

That is very true and well said. I'm with you on that and just hope people could see that. Unfortunately there's always a layer that needs leading as they can't think for themselves and these masses can be easily manipulated.

Perhaps we all need leading in some way, which is why a healthy community is so valuable. I know that for me, I will defer my opinion to some who I trust are better suited to make the call. For example, the electrician is an expert and I can't do their job, I can only influence it. They will make decisions that I have no visibility on, but will affect my experience.

There is nothing wrong. At such moments of communication, much more happens - a common problem connects people, new acquaintances are found - and in general it's fun to add fuel to the fire))

I think there should be more communication, but I have been through a few clusterforks and some people lose their minds. It is interesting to watch =)

hive increase in price 0.3$ is quite good to sell and also show hive is a good investment I'm glad I buy hive in April at low and sell high and I see chart now price is going down from 0.3 to 0.27 hope for best

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Good luck out there :)

Thank you for the information. At least I don't think I will be worried.

Foundation building might not be exciting, but if you want to see green, you have to plant and nurture the seeds.

I like this statement

In general, there is nothing to really worry about, but people take everything so seriously these days.

Anything that makes Hive more accessible to users and markets as well as any which adds stability to the platform is good. On top of the coming hardfork, new projects are launching every other week. Just two days ago a new NFT project, @lensy just opened its platform, this time to sell and trade photographs. That is a huge step forward to attract new users to the platform. Also, a Defi project to add wHive to Ethereum Uniswap platform will open a huge door for speculators. That will bring liquidity to the platform and maybe a catalyzer to new dApps.

@lensy is a great concept. I wish we had #appics style app for Hive 😀

There are some pretty cool things coming out at the moment and I am hoping that those gateways open up in time for new users and speculators coming into crypto over the next year.

Thajk you for this. I really was getting a tad bit anxious seeing as i only heard about it recently and ot in full or correct details and being a new user here. Information really is key.

The hardfork is mostly looking to clean up code from the past and shouldn't bring in too much change to the day to day.

The Koreans were the ones responsible for Steem and SBD going nuts a couple of years ago if I am not mistaken. Any listing added to what we have is welcome as it is only going to take less time to achieve what we already know.

Yeah, they drove the SBD pump to the moon. Exchange listings are good, but hopefully more will come in than leave :)

I am not active on Discord. Another wish here - hope all the engagement we have on discord could be transferred to a chat service on Hive. So that, we can be part of those discourses.

Removing scrapes and other menial jobs look and sound menial but they are not. They are the very foundation of the structure that are you are working on. If you are not careful and do not remove the residues, they might damage the structure or it will take time to remove them after. Do you due diligence, scrape.

But, keep writing :)

hope all the engagement we have on discord could be transferred to a chat service on Hive.

It has to be off-chain and have the potential for privacy - but for sure, there should be an integrated chat function at the very least.

Clean up gives the space for other work to take place too and it is better to get the code clean now when there are only a few users who will be affected, than later and there are many, many more.

Hope they can do something about it amp the engagement. I do not understand the back-end of coding and how the block chain works. Should do some basic readings to better understand what I am getting into and how this operates.

basic understanding is a good idea, as soon you might be asked about it from strangers :D

I am always asked about it not from strangers but within the family circle. My answer to them is 'this is like internet that will grow into popularity in the near future'. I am not sure how accurate that answer is though 😂

It'll do - I have tried many methods to explain and the technical people don't understand the power of community - the non-tech don't get the tech - the greedy focus on money and try to scam :D

Yes, without a foundation, in our life nowhere. When a person realizes that any of his actions brings him not only a result, but also contributes to the strengthening of his foundation (skills), meaning appears in action and life as such. Although, this is just my opinion, in no way I want to impose it on others, everyone should have their own worldview. (It is interesting to get it, maybe the worldview is the foundation?)

P.S. I will miss your publications on a mini-trip, which I will still go on, I will make up for everything I can read upon my arrival home. Good weekend for you.

It is interesting to get it, maybe the worldview is the foundation?

I think you are right. We set up our worldview of life, then behave accordingly. This is why what we think is so important to what we end up doing.

Have a great trip mate! Enjoy all you can :)

I didn't know we had a Hardforks programmed. A cold air runs down my back as I remember the last (or penultimate) one. It triggered many wars, tantrums and losses. A moment that some people took advantage of to fish in a river that was in turmoil. I hope that this fork in the river will be less cumbersome and traumatic. Thank you for this information. Greetings

September 8th is the tentative date announced a few days ago. Whether it will hold to that is unsure, but it shouldn't be too far past at least.

Muy bueno tu post, me gusto la expresión " La construcción de cimientos puede no ser emocionante, pero si quieres ser verde, debes plantar y cultivar las semillas". Esa en nuestra tarea diaria.

Hive is getting popularity and this is pretty awesome.

Panic is never good. I believe that controlling one's emotions is better long term