I am still not following. What action do you think alfa might take and what action do you think I might take?
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I am still not following. What action do you think alfa might take and what action do you think I might take?
Okay. Your post merely reinforced my belief that downvote abuse is much too easy, and almost never countered. In fact, the way the system is set up, there is no effective way to counter the abuse. I'm not sure alfa would be persuaded, though.
Some have said that the 'community' can counter any supposed downvote abuse by simply upvoting the content to overcome the DVs. There are two major flaws with that argument.
The first deals with timing. A large stakeholder intent on punishing another accountholder can simply wait until the very last minute and apply the DV, thus negating any chance of the 'community' coming to the rescue of the author.
Secondly, even if the community does 'come the rescue' by upvoting a heavily-downvoted post, they are doing so to their own detriment, because their curation rewards are reduced proportionately to the size of the downvote. Whereas DVs cost the DV'er nothing, the malicious downvoter, intent on abusing another accountholder, can do so ad infinitum because it costs them nothing, but is costly to both the targeted author and the community striving to support that author. At some point, the other side (author or curators or both) will grow tired of essentially subsidizing the DV'ers actions, with no end in sight.
The only reason why you will get malicious downvotes from me till you stop your stupid crusade and your little policeman behaviour are your bullshit assumptions and misrepresentations.
Best regards.
Yes, I follow you.
And, yes, you are correct in that, under the current 'code' the only way to combat malicious DV'ing is by enlisting whale accounts to enter into a DV war with the 'abusing' account. Because DVs cost nothing, they can be used with impunity, forever, unless and until there is a genuine penalty brought to bare against the abuser.
The problem then becomes, a whale penalizing an abuser could then be labeled (by someone sympathetic to the abuser) as abusing the abuser.
So, it's hard to see where this sorts itself out.
BTW, I am definitely open to creative solutions, especially on Layer 2, where they can be tried and tested and easily reverted if things don't go as expected.
Telling bullshit about a lot of free people is a form of abuse!
Best regards.
I agree (sort of). If downvotes become universally utilized to their maximum potential by everyone, then it simply becomes an inverse vote. However, the challenge then becomes how to maintain curation rewards. Because the DV can be sniped against a nemesis just before payout (to maximize the effective penalty), but the upvote cannot (well, it can, but at a greatly reduced curation percentage).
So, it ultimately becomes a battle of DV bots, and incentivizes the average user (author and curator) to figure out how to avoid the DVs (by not making anyone angry, and by not getting 'upvotes' from accounts with a hefty DV following them).
Hive becomes a Mad Max style lawlessness, where warlords fight each other and average folks just try to keep their heads down and stay out of the line of fire.
I fail to see how that ends up being positive or beneficial.
I am curious as to what "winning the war" would look like, from your perspective.
War ends if guys like you stop stupid crusading due to our own ridiculous conspiracy-bullshit and your personal blacklists, its very easy. Best regrads.
Hard to tell what's going on here. When I saw your DV of jelly's Splinterlands Barrel post (which I thought was a great post), I assumed you were maliciously downvoting him. After reading through some of the history, it now seems that he brought this on himself, by assuming the role of 'policeman' and seeking to enforce his own version of anti-abuse policies (or maybe trying to call attention to inconsistent application of hivewatcher's anti-abuse policies?).
In any event, all of this confirms my own dislike for the way DVs currently function. DV wars don't seem to benefit anyone, and cause a lot of collateral damage (similar to real wars, in that respect).
Honestly, you´re a fucked up psychopath🤦♂😆!
hard evidence to share in public, but definitly enough to make people aware - There is much more, have fun, seems like you enjoy stalking, but do it properly this time ;).The flags for @louis88 AND @rivalzzz happen for a very good reason. Hint: Check the Accounts created with the profile of "the silent one" you tagged in your post - No assumptions, just not enough
Funny by the way that the one mentioned here is not respronding, but the unmentioned twin which wants to leave Hive anyway is arriving in public with strange bullshit again :D.
"Your arrival" also was a very funny "coinsidence"... ;).^^
Hail Jellyler.