I can back these claims and I will go further to tag Mr @birdinc. Apparently @birdinc is going around lying about the role he played in the beginning when Hive was getting listed. @birdinc has been trying to start his own Steem-based chain since last year (made apparent with his recent push for his Steem-based fork he and others are working on).
@birdinc is a nice guy and I don't hate him, but he didn't do anything in regards to actually doing work getting the Hive token listed. He claims he sent emails or reached out to people, but when the time came for the work, he dumped it on other people as he fancied himself the one that established the connections in the first place (he wasn't).
Hive doesn't need ex-SteemIt employees behaving as if they are working for SteemIt. Hive needs people that are willing to CLOSE THE DEAL and not just drop it in the lap of others. I would not have made this post if not for @birdinc going around Discord spreading bullshit and misinformation.
@birdinc, why not just focus on Blurt and getting that shit-token listed on exchanges? If Blurt is not listed on Binance/Huobi/Bittrex by the end of this year, can we use that as evidence that you also would have likely failed to get Hive listed were it up to you alone? If you get Blurt listed on Binance/Huobi/Bittrex I will go ahead and give you 1,000 HIVE for that accomplishment (should be worth about $50k by then I suspect).
Also, I am not sure you would have been able to accomplish a SINGLE listing without having the legal documentation that concluded that EOS tokens (and by extension Hive tokens) are not a security. I obtained that document, and I provided that document. That would have been a good task for a business connections guy to perform imo. I am just a developer yet I am able to more effectively dig of legal documentation to support Hive efforts than an ex-SteemIt business lead?
If you had a problem with @justineh proposal, why didn't you come make a public comment about it? Why hide your tail between your legs and go snake around in private chats spreading misinformation? Is it because there are very little people that can dispute your claims in private chats? Is it because there are a LOT of people that can dispute your claims in public? One must wonder.
Finally, @birdinc, you advised us all to pay $150k from the DHF for Huobi listing alone. The very same listing @justineh closed on for $0. You wanted to pay $150k. AND you wanted to receive income from the DHF when it was clear you were not closing any listings.
To add context, you were admonished by @justineh, and me, and others, when you went to create the earlier proposal because IT WAS TOO EARLY and you were just trying to put your name forward to earn some kind of favor with the community that were not privvy to the exchange talks going on. Despite me disagreeing with your proposal, I still GAVE you 10 HBD (you couldn't even afford 10 HBD to make a fucking proposal?) so you can make the proposal and get stakeholder voting opinion. Did your proposal ever get funded?
Come on @birdinc. Quit hiding being private chats. Let's air this in the open.
"Finally, @birdinc, you advised us all to pay $150k from the DHF for Huobi listing alone."
I did not advise this but only shared the screenshot of what the Huobi Listing Manager sent to me in a private Telegram DM to the Hive Slack.
Once I saw the comments from people in the Slack, I realized it was not worth my time trying to help coordinate everything because there were so many different people involved and Justine was better for the position.
After dropping the reply from the Huobi Listing Manager in the Hive Slack and seeing the responses, I closed the Hive Slack and did not open it again, and was kicked out a few days later.
"Finally, @birdinc, you advised us all to pay $150k from the DHF for Huobi listing alone. The very same listing @justineh closed on for $0. You wanted to pay $150k."
Show me where I advised to pay. Free is always the best and the goal with exchanges.
The last thing I did in the Hive Slack was copy and past the initial ask from the Huobi Listing Manager who I am still in contact with.
The way I worked exchange comms worked for Ned and Steemit, Inc. but it not work for Hive and that's fine.
"Despite me disagreeing with your proposal, I still GAVE you 10 HBD (you couldn't even afford 10 HBD to make a fucking proposal?) so you can make the proposal and get stakeholder voting opinion."
I do owe you 10 HBD still but I thought we were kind of friends or at least old Steem associates and I was mad at you guys for kicking me out of the Hive Slack and you @netuoso, I figured you would back me up as a professional.
"Did your proposal ever get funded?"
I deleted my proposal right away because @justineh asked me to.
All the exchanges know me as the Steemit guy and I did everything I could that night to make sure that all the other exchagnes knew that Binance was supporting the airdrop.
"@birdinc, why not just focus on Blurt and getting that shit-token listed on exchanges? If Blurt is not listed on Binance/Huobi/Bittrex by the end of this year, can we use that as evidence that you also would have likely failed to get Hive listed were it up to you alone? If you get Blurt listed on Binance/Huobi/Bittrex I will go ahead and give you 1,000 HIVE for that accomplishment (should be worth about $50k by then I suspect)."
Exchanges don't work like this, the story and the community is the most important thing and given my experience of talking to over 200 exchanges, many of which I have met in person,I knew exactly who to talk to and what to say.
Blurt will likely not have the forward momentum that Hive had and it will be a much different story with exchanges. Hive had the news cycle and everyone in the industry was watching Hive.
Im glad someone gets it.
@justineh did good work on CoinDesk and you could say she is responsible for Hive in the news cycle to a small extent.
She knew who to talk to and gave them the story, which is what I did, in part, with exchanges.
I wanted to partner with Justine and continue to help Hive but my style of moving fast and sharing all comms with the Slack didn't work with so many moving parts and so many people.
Sure.
Well im responsible for the story being picked up by 2 of the 5 biggest crypto youtubers before Coindesk or Telegraph picked it up, and my tweets were quoted by a number of articles as well. All that without being inside slack or being in "whale favor".
Before this post (if it wasnt for justines 30k id prolly never mention it) i told that to the guys in my Discord group and they roasted me over it. You do these things not to get payed, you do it because you care about HIVE, youre doing the right thing and because your stake depends on it.
And then I just got buried in the chain politics and kicked out.
Interestingly, the politics you got buried in were entirely off-chain.
As someone who worked for Ned directly to get Steem listed on all the top exchanges, I figured it would only make sense for me to help with Hive so as a community volunteer I reached out to eight (8) exchanges in 12 hours to help secure the airdrop for Hive (as part of a group effort of course) and I have the emails, Telegram chats, and business relationships to prove it. But I am a professional and work with many top coins so the way I see it she beat me out of a job which is completely fine with me.
"To add context, you were admonished by @justineh, and me, and others, when you went to create the earlier proposal because IT WAS TOO EARLY and you were just trying to put your name forward to earn some kind of favor with the community that were not privvy to the exchange talks going on."
I was looking for a job and I was encouraged to make the proposal from people in the #exchanges channel of the Hive Slack.
DM to @netuoso
I'm happy to try and clear the air but I must tell my side of the story.
And I wasn't using the EOS legal opinion as a matter of fact. That doesn't make much sense.