Spam: an animation

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I am sure we are all aware of the debate currently raging back and forth on steemit on the upvoting of spam comments. I thought I would make a short animation! It's funny how they claim they are all innocent isn't it?

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hahaha ham

Chopped pork and ham!!

Resteem
Ha ha ha
I like it love it
@meesterboom
Can I have permission to use the gif ?

Going Hunting

https://steemit.com/copynpaste/@bullionstackers/warning-to-all-authors-that-simply-copy-n-paste

Hey hey @bullionstackers!! Of course you can use it!! I would consider it an honour!!

read this offline and loved it!
creativeness overflowing in ya brain chico!

It has to go somewhere or my head will burst!!

I'll be happy to put it together, if you want to make your blog into a book. I'm not even in the world of books, but I will learn what needs to be known and make it a best seller. You are one consistently entertaining cat!

You are too kind dude!!! I do toy with the idea lol!!

I already had the opportunity to drop this link on someone, LOL!!!

Wayhay!!! :O)

Sith Lords of the Steemit

Lol!!

That bomber looks like it is spreading freedom and democracy (American style)!

LOL

It does a bit doesnt it! Maybe I should do a Bomber versus North Korea!

he's ready!

You think he could get a fucking tailor with eyes dont you?

And a propper hairdresser dont you think...

So much work to be done lol

Well, that was worth a full power UV for sure LOL.

I have been really patient on here over the months with it. I have said we have language barriers here and cultural differences many many times.....

But it is honestly getting to me now.

I have posted in Russian and translated both ways, and made the effort..... it is not too much to ask others to do some of the same.

Make some effort people. I am admitting now, the thousands of crap accounts with crap effort and crap comments are bothering me, and I have been telling them the same lately.

THEN.... there is the intentional accounts spamming and draining the rewards pool along with this all.

Exactly mate. I have been patient like you. But when your posts have comments which are just copy and pasted into hundreds of posts or dropping a link to their posts or worse saying follow me we can help each other you think ffs!!!

And then the reward pool swallowers. Thems the ones that are the worst!

I agree with you 100%

At first when I was fresh in the water flapping around and posting away I did not mind it that much. Now that I have been here a while I realized it upsets me more and more each time I see this kind of spammy comments.
I have told myself not to let it bother me that much...

BUT THEN, I came across a user named EHUJRA I will not add the @ in fear of being bombarded with flags. This really got me furious. What he is doing is pure abuse. Made me so angry. I asked myself why do I get so angry... once again I realized it's because I have started to really appreciate and care for this platform. It has helped me a lot and will always be a fun hobby for me. Learning all the ins and outs. Testing things, communicating with cool people. The most fun I had in a long time and I am earning a bit by doing it all. People like these will give this site a bad rep and we need to take more action against them.

Thank you for posting @meesterboom.

Lovely work.......Steem on.

Hope you have seen @ace108's investigation in a couple of posts regarding spam comments.....interesting......

Wishing you and yours all the best.. Cheers.

I will go and check them just now! I have to catch up with my feed today I am a tad behind!!

And thank you for viewing @bleujay, all the very best to you and yours too!!

Funny , have to look at that flipaclip one time.
Are it above Spam nuts or Spam icecream ?
Hmmm, nice. Relaxing after push button day ! :08

It's a great app if you put the time in!

Get that relaxing in order!

Thank you , I will try.
How's trading ? I'm pretty much all-in in some altcoins now.
You only live once and the money is virtual anyway ,so ....
Oh dear , .... rolf lmao.
Happy trading and lot's of pleasure.
Cheers , mate ! Looking forward for the beer blog.

Trading... Not much happening just now. Have bought some coins in the last couple of dips. Waiting till next week to see what happens after the bitcoin thing!!

Thank you !
We' ll see what happens !

Excellent work of animation dear friend @meesterboom, a very creative and intelligent way of saying things that are not right, congratulations, thank you very much for this work grab
Have a beautiful friday

Most welcome and a very appropriate gif!!!

Thanks for visiting @jlufer!

I'm a newbie. I started posting my first article last 18th of July. I learned that in order to interact with other Steemians, you have to leave a comment in their posts. Your animation is telling me that we should stop posting unnecessary comments? Is that correct? If I'm wrong, can you please elaborate? Thank you in advance. :)

@pinaynomad What @meesterboom is referring to is comments such as:

I upvoted you please upvote me OR
I am following you, follow me. OR
Here is my blog check it out http: myblog.com/myname(just an example not a real link)OR
Nice post OR
Wow

So what you are doing, asking questions, interacting leaving a comment is all encouraged...just not the examples I mentioned earlier...and welcome to steemit! :)

Thanks for the explanation. I get it now. I will do my best to follow the guidelines. :)

Oh not at all. Commenting is to be encouraged! But at the same time you should only really comment if you are going to add something. Saying nice post for example will not win you any fans.

However this post isn't really about that. It is about people upvoting their own spammy contents for the money. Excellent.g. putting no effort in.

Ahhh, gotcha! Thanks for the explanation. Upvoting their own comment is funny and pathetic at the same time. It's like complimenting their own article. Kind selfish noh? :D

Yas indeed!

meep

And just like that you sweep back into my life with your unmistakable jasmine scent that always sets my heart racing.

....please ignore the 659 upvotes on this comment. It is genuine. Nice photo btw, looks like a nice place.

I love travelling, thats why I had to share my travels with you!!

659?? Where are the other 341, are they resting!??

Such fascinating travels. But next time include a bikini pic. The rest of my robots weren't working.

Damn, I forgot the bikini pic!

If you don't give me a few paragraphs how am I supposed to find something to cut and paste out of it as my hit and run spammy comment? Those are my favourite, not. Love the animation :)

Hehe, Cheers!

Oh man, what are those ones like!! I have been frankly quite baffled by them!!

Some things defy understanding. Like people telling you how wonderful your lengthy post is after its only been up for 30 seconds.

I love comments, but I would prefer them to be genuine, or if not then at least clever in some way.

I feel exactly the same way. There is nothing better than a comment that suggests the peon has read your post.

Recently I have seen a lot of the ones that go up within seconds of a lengthy post saying great photos or love your stuff and you know they can't possibly have even lightly skimmed it.

Yes "great photo" I've seen that one a lot, within the first minute or so. I got that to one of m posts from a few days ago. It contained one photo, and about 1500 words. Within 30 seconds in comes the comment "Great photos" (plural). What about my words, do they all suck do they? No response.

All the words passed them by!

I have seen that on posts where there is a great piece of fiction with one header photo. It's always a dreadful shame. One well written comment is so much more likely to garner votes and a follow but no, the easy way is taken.

Enjoyed. So am I missing it or are we saying the comments are spam? I thought the big controversy going around was about spam posts such as people just stealing from say youtube putting up a short clip or something to that affect? Personally, I like the comments. What am I missing here or am I over thinking it...............

Oh no, this isn't about copy and paste spam efforts.

This is about people with a decent amount of SP putting spam comments on posts like enjoyed or even in the worst cases random numbers and then voting up their own comments with all their voting power to get rewards. There is nothing inherently wrong with voting for your own comment if you have a reason but some of the spammers don't even vote on the posts they are spamming on, they only vote on their own comments over and over and over again.

So yes, you might be over thinking it a tad :0)

Ah! Well that's something I wasn't aware of. That's pretty shitty. Thank you for bringing it to light for me as now I get it. I'm in the boat of not for it too. So what do we do? Flag the comments? I suppose I'll see this as I can't recall running into as of yet and I read lot's of comments.

It is a bit rubbish. You probably wouldn't see them as they do them on old posts or little known posts. You will run into it eventually and shake your head

I like this post, it gives more learning and educating all steemians. During my first week of doing stuff here like posting, comenting and up voting. I saw an easy way of earning like upvoting my own comments. I just want to admit that at first I was doing a spam not realizing that it was a spam. Upon reading those post like this one I was enlightened and change those ways. I admit that I did spam before and I also insisted that I was innocent. I think there are many that are doing spam ways without realizing it is spaming. There are innocents especialy newbies...perhaps there are people here that arr already knew and claimed to be innocent.
I'm sorry for doing spam before...
Lastly, I love this post...

It is good that you realise now it was spam and have changed your ways! Well done!

Made me laugh but this is a very serious issue faced by a great many Steemians in their blog comments, it is very irritating to say the least. Culprits spamming will quickly p!ss off members and will most likely get flagged and lose reputation....think first, is spamming working for you.

A great universally understandable animation.

You got an upvote & resteem from me.
Steem on beyond the moon, it is going further than that. Good luck to us all.

It is indeed a serious issue which we do need to get sorted. It doesnt help the new people be taken seriously and detracts from people getting started.

Thank you for the upvote and resteem!

I do not understand this discussion. On Steemit you can make comments and comments are paid. So it's normal that spam is done. Just do not pay comments or put a limit on comments and end delirium. Very simple! Actually this thing likes many ....
But what is spam? Who is Steemit's authority deciding what is spam

I think in this case I am referring to the people who are just putting comments with numbers on for example (seriously) and upvoting their own comments full power each time and never voting other people. So done people see it as robbing the rewards pool

Ah ... the pathetic people who vote for their comments! Some are in this discussion to complain ..... I have read of a proposal that abolishes this thing. For me, all payments to the comments must be abolished!

I don't mind them being paid for but maybe upvoting your own should be!!

OK! But then we do not complain! But I would set a limit ... Max 10 comments off your billboard. There are people who make 100 comments a day. All smart things to pay? Nooooo ... these are the serial spammers that are on all the boards to comment on everything. And their reputation rises. Though they say banality and obvious things.

Ya these are definitely the bad ones!!

My flag missiles are armed and ready

Exactly how it should be!

This "click here for more comments" link is my least favourite of the recent spam.
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Lol, that made me laugh!!

Your future as a full time animator is nearer, I have not doubt

Cheers! I would love to have the time to do more detailed ones sigh

😂😂😂 that's the best way to deal with those spammers. Great post!

It is indeed and thank you :0)

I just spam it! I meant ignore it!

You cant ignore that meaty goodness! :O)

Oh yes, I can! Too much cholesterol, NOT good for the heart you know? 😆

Yes I been noticing these spam comments. Thanks for the animation. Funny.

Thank you for dropping by :0)

lol, that s funny! from that box should come out some "links" too!

Man, I should have thought of that!!

Oooo a spamanimation!!! I LOVE it LOL

Hehe, a good name for it!!

I thought so too but didn't wanna honk my own flugelhorn lol

Honk away!! No-one will honk it for ya! :0)

Man ain't that the truth lmao

I want more of them flaggin' rockets!

It would be good to have a stash of them!!

cool as always. ))

Thank ya lass!

How many SBD's do I need to send to the rocket to do his job??

Lol, like a randowhale service, hehe!

Absolutely!! Sign me up! This way we can contribute to someone who drops the flags but don't have to be the bearer of bad news!

Spam rots tha gut sir @meesterboom ! Get 'em !! Upvoted gleefully -


What in the. Just awful...

Aargh!!! Phil Collins!!!! :0D

I am innocent, I am a good girl lol :)

Oh aye Karen, so you say ;0)

Hey young man you know better than to speak to a lady like that :/ lol

I am winking!! :0)

Thought you had something in your eye ;)

Actually today I do!!

Its a glint!! :OD

Or is it a sty lol :)

Es vergonzoso, y aun mas cuando somos nuevos en la plataforma, leer eso de te sigo sigueme ayudame, se trata mejor de aprender para quienes no tenemos la experincia necesaria, existen muuchas opciones para mejorar e ir avanzando con dignidad¡

Si, es verdad!

That gained popularity in no time flat . I keep reading about SPAM . I also keep reading personal definitions of what is and is not . Isn't there a central authority that governs all these various definition factions ?

Nah!!! Its all subjective. Most people do hate it when people just randonly comment utter tripe on their posts in the hope of their comment getting upvotes thought, So that is generally considered spammy. Apart from that it is up to you to decide but when you see it you will know it!

Nice post. Please follow me back! 😂

OMGZ! YES! I FOLLOW YOU NOW! ;O)

They drive me mad, but as Steemit grows I think that it will get worse :-(

It probably will. Ah well, every silver lining!

Well said ;-) My wife says I have an not listening super power, I will have to bring that super power to Steemit to combat the spammers!

HAhahha, I think all wives say that to all partners!!

Thank you @meesterboom for the animation! It will hopefully demonstrate to new minnows entering the Steemit platform why we do not appreciate spam comments. The animation demonstrated one aspect of why it is wrong to post spam comments. In terms of monetary value, such actions are abusive and simply wrong. I am sure many serious writers who spend time thinking, writing and editing their posts before posting feel that their work at least deserve to be read by viewers who are going to end up leaving comments. It is offensive to see those abusing the reward pool and not show any appreciation for writers and curators who care about what this platform means.

One thing I have been doing is resteeming all posts similar to these that represent our disapproval of abusers on this site as well as posts that assist new minnows in understanding the rules and tips on how to use this platform well so that it can be beneficial to us all. I am hoping that since your animation made a clear visual point of the consequences of spamming, that it will reach those who do not understand the rules due to the language barriers. We definitely need more visuals like this to promote the rules and integrity of this site.

One thing I have noticed is that once in a while, I lose followers that way and I believe it is because they are spamming themselves, who needs them as followers anyway. I also like to check who comments on post like this so that I can add new people to follow.

If I may suggest a post from you on how to make animations like this or easier ones would be great! I would love to learn as I am not the most tech-savvy person and not familiar with animation tools.

Thank you for your comment.

I thought about doing a tutorial on animation but It is just a lot of drawing! Over and over again lol.

If it helps in any way then that is good. It is mostly fun with slight message behind it. I like poking a bit of fun at current events on the platform :O)

Well, you definitely got me interesting in creating some form of animation. Could you suggest a place to start so i could learn a little of this skill? Thanks! I know, I should just carefully read the many comments on your blog.... time I do not have. Thanks!

There is nowhere to start other than just going for it. I would suggest a very short one of about two or three seconds first with not much in it. It is quite difficult when you first start

HAHA! The best part is when they defend that they're only doing it to support us and that we should be grateful to them hahaha! I had a debate on steemit chat with one about that. Really though, I don't know if he's being serious or he's just trolling. You could really feel the sincerity in their words sometimes. There's really something warm and fuzzy, and heart-wrenching when you read those thoughtful words. "Nice post."

It makes me complete when I read nice post. Like everything has come together. I have had debates too on the subject and the guy was very sincere. It was quite odd!!

Right!? Makes you question if you're right to throw the hammer. Maybe nice post was everything that should be said from your post, because it may be just that--nice. I guess that's why I still reply giving tips to those kinds of people who may not know any better. If they continue to go about it that way, then that's on them.

Yeah, I sometimes reply to them too, although sometimes with the responses I get I think that the hammer is actually a kind gesture :0D

Me thinks lightning from the hammer of Thor would be a more apt response haha!

Now we are talking!!

Wait... we're only just now talking!? What have we been doing all of this time?? Oh my Glob! Have I been telepathically linked to my computer all this time!? The wonders of the Singularity!!

This just reminds me that victimhood in itself doesn’t imply the victim’s innocence.

That is very true

Unfortunately, this can not be solved, there are more and more of them

Perhaps we should hunt them. Like dogs!

I really like this one. Lol @meesterboom

I am glad you do!! :0)

Resteem & upvoted
Lol
really funny and great
@meesterboom

Cheers very much!!

meep

I've locked the doors. You can't go

I won't let you GO!

meep

What's that you say, smoke? Yes, I have set fire to the house.

If I can't have you then no-one can!!

The gif said it all love the post ahh im innocent yea right resteemed

Hehe, yeah, innocent indeed! Cheers dude!

I upvoted you @meesterboom, please upvote me!

LOL! Now thankfully you know I am a follower and NOT a spammer. I am so tired of this as wel...It actually discourages a bit of posting, so as not to get spammed... I hope steemit can make a "steemit Etiquette" on what is good and what shouldn't be followed.

There are so many etiquette posts! I dont think the spammers actually read any posts at all!

I have followed you now ROFL, (I was already of course hehe)

The worst problems are most human profiles being spammers and spammer-minded and this: https://steemit.com/steemit/@stimialiti/bots-and-multiple-accounts-on-steemit

The suicide part is not having direct ads, although the promoted content and the system as is now, actually encourage advertisement in a sense and help mitigate some of this problem.

I am of two minds about ads. Part of me things that unobtrusive ones might be ok and the other thinks that it might mean more bots in an attempt to game the ads

If Advertisers will have to buy STEEM in order to advertise, guess what will happen to its price.
What do you mean by "it might mean more bots in an attempt to game the ads" ?

Well it depends. It depends on the popularity of the site. They aint gonna pay a fortune for a site with 50000 users. For the price of steem to rise we need more users which I believe we will get.

There are lots of bots gaming adverts by clicking them in the wider web just now, Dont know what that will do to steemit

every one not have only one habit every mind had each differnt thinking

its too informative :)
welcome to my blog @farhannaqvi7

That is a fantastic piece of work. I furnished it with fine clothing and tool of iron. From here we can make our grotto and go out and face the world together!!!

FOR FARHANNAQVI7!!

Will be our battle cry. Can others join?

yes sir i join it :)

The comment community. Lol

What tool did you use for your animations?

I used an android app called FlipaClip. Its very good

Our Patience will always be rewarded , right @meesterboom

All comes to he who waits!

Very well said , many people lack this , but we will find happiness in the end . God bless 🙏

They do lack it and it is such an important virtue!

God bless:O)

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