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RE: User Authority, Responsibility, and Eternity

in #life6 years ago

I have rarely read a response that gave me more food for thought than this. I have indeed seen the potential for eusociality to be a weapon wielded against free men, and much of what you say is undeniable. I am confident that this will be done - although probably not on Earth, as the complexity of the technology and the all too common hubris of the most brilliant of scientists lends existential danger to would be overlords that might apply this here - at least at first.

This reveals the mechanism that completely obviates the threat of utter subjugation and reduction of humanity to masters and slaves: the extent of the universe. Only madmen beyond reason would try to create a slave race genetically on Earth with extant, or nascent technology, and those threaten the rational psychopaths that truly rule this realm, and likely will continue to. Any such experiments will be crushed and prevented with all dispatch as threats to the families with power.

Once space travel provides a buffer between those in power and potential experimental learning experiences (failures), it will also provide a route to absolute freedom.

There will be no stuffing of that genie back in the bottle. There eusociality will be tried, and free men will be free of any overlords, and their money.

As ever increasing comprehension of technology potentiates more rational development - and this is not so much technical advance as political - strip mining ancient forests for brown coal, ores, and monocropping of prairies and savannahs will be over. As ecological forces are better harnessed to provide for the needs of humanity on Earth, many will also be using that same developmental technology to leave Earth altogether for fairer vistas, specifically where they can develop their societies as they see fit.

While the population of humanity will burgeon beyond reckoning, that of the Earth may well dwindle, despite the essentially limitless carrying capacity of our planet when rationally developed. Nature will probably rule most of it, with people able to experience every part of the spectrum of wilderness to civilization without threatening the ecosystems as we do now. The threat we pose is almost only due to the bloodthirsty competition for the resources that may be extracted profitably when the costs of development are offshored. For example, the cost of restoring the ancient forest in Germany that hasn't been developed in the last 12kya aren't going to be borne by the mining company, but government, making it profitable to mine the brown coal beneath it. Rational development will render such atrocities untenable, and actually profitable development will provide better solutions.

Regardless, once men are spaceborne, they will be ungovernable, and utterly free to conduct their affairs as they see fit. Space operas, like Star Wars, make pretense that interstellar space might be able to be controlled by some kind of government, but the nature of spacetime makes that impossible. No government can take centuries to respond to rebellion, and relativity makes more rapid response inconceivable.

Once that is possible, what are venal overlords to do? Maybe some can buy some slaves and create their hedonistic seraglios in some corner of the galaxy - until free men find them and cleanse them from the universe.

We will be free. It's only a matter of time and engineering.

Thanks!

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Our masters need not force MMI onto their subject population, since by merely using current propaganda apparatus, the drones will voluntarily demand MMI installation and subsequent subjection. As nearly every man in the developed, as well as developing, world now possess some form of mobile phone, so too will be MMI in the near future. As more people use MMI for sociocultural functions, MMI will become indispensable, and those who control the interface via AI will attain absolute control over the drones. The chaos of democracy will become ordered, as the drones vote according to their masters' directions, convinced by the algorithm of the MMI that their masters' will is their own desire. Why would such development be a threat to our current masters, when an orderly society, maintained by slaves who are chained by their own perceptions, ensure their ascendancy for the foreseeable future?

MMI may obviate the need to create genetic inferiors to serve as slaves, but everything is a cost-benefit analysis, and it may be that creating genetic untermenschen is more cost effective than installing MMI on all the subject population. If man can perfect artificial womb for existing cloning technology, then creating the untermenschen to serve as unskilled labor force would be more cost effective.

Space colonization need also be analyzed with cost-benefit analysis. What is the benefit, for our masters, of space exploration and colonization compared with the cost of such endeavors? Other than mining asteroids for rare minerals, colonization has no justifiable benefit for our masters. Even if there exists more cost effective space travel option other than using ICBMs, then that technology will also be monopolized by our masters. Without massive support from Earth government/society, colonization of different planets will be impossible. There is no rational reason for our masters, who have achieved and will continue to enjoy unparalleled dominance over their drones, in form of genetic engineering and MMI algorithm control, to ever consider planetary colonization.

Population levels can be curtailed through strategic famine, sterilization, and birth control means. When our masters perfect cloning technology, the human society will establish equilibrium with the planet, according to our masters' designs, by producing sterile humanoids to serve as drones and technicians. As ants, bees, and wasps do not rebel against their hive-mind, so too, will man evolve to eusocialist existence, in which nonconformity becomes an impossibility.

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