SSI recipients
Although I am 100% disabled, I don't take any, despite I have been awarded it. I cut my benefits 100%.
Your charade at auditing my books is as frail as your grip on sanity. Derived value is limited to quid pro quo. Invitations to dinner, to backyard BBQ's, will not meet that standard, your bloviations notwithstanding. People begging change on the street can make a lot of money at it. More than me. Pity the IRS Agent that drags one into an audit.
"If I had had thousands of dollars..."
Sure. Been there, done that, still lost my house despite applying my mortgage payments for a mortgage I had signed to a mortgage I had never even seen is blatantly illegal. Every ambulance chaser in smelling distance will tell you whatever you want to hear to get you to plunk down a retainer, and then put their kids through college doing battle with Brobdingnagian foes that can throw paper at the courts until you die.
If you initiate a lawsuit while you're paying a mortgage, BTW, the lender can call your note due and immediately payable, because you not only might not win, but might lose a huge judgment against you. Your target can countersue.
"Reputational harms is a real thing, and people can sue for it."
You have to have a reputation that's worth a plugged nickel first. Anonymous comments on some Discus blog don't count. There have been all manner of dire threats and vicious abuses posted on this blockchain, and not one suit has come of any of it, to my knowledge, despite millions of dollars being in some of the accounts.
Keep a rational tongue in your cheek. Or even a floridly insane tongue in your cheek, but by Ned's hair quit taking yourself so seriously. I do appreciate you letting up on the libel. Thanks for that grace.
You can never lose an argument. You think I sit around thinking this stuff up but I don't. A person took in a friend after they became disabled. The friend filed for disability. He ended up getting SSI, they deducted $314.00 from his monthly SSI payment of nine hundred some dollars. They said he derived value from her providing him a place and taking care of him. Feeding someone derives value. At least to the government. But keep calling me a liar.
I said if I had thousands laying around, as in enough that I wouldn't have anything better to do with it other than fling it into a chance something might or might not come of it. It wouldn't so much matter that my word means nothing out on a blog platform as it would to help bolster my complaint that they misrepresent themselves to the public, openly, blatantly, of which they cannot do. I don't have thousands laying around with nothing better to do with it, so it's just worthless conjecture for you to assume I'd lose my house over it. I don't have a mortgage either. I have an equity loan but nothing big enough to sweat about as I have good enough credit to switch that over to an unsecured loan if I had to.
You receiving something of value in exchange for something of value, is derived value according to the government. Your argument is like the guy who insist he didn't commit the crime but is guilty as hell. I don't make the rules, nor do I apply them, or agree with them, but, overall, the bigger shock will come when they digitalize everything on an open chain and proceed to ask that person peddling for money on a street corner how it is he spends more money than he gets.