Hi Joe. Aggression is the initiation of violence, so if you didn't start it, you're not being aggressive.
The NAP isn't about withdrawing from society, just the state, which loves it when you confuse the two.
There's still plenty to disagree about though, as @piedpiper has mentioned.
I don't believe corporal punishment qualifies as aggression, for example.
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@mattclarke, agreed, I believe in not starting violence, physical fights, but some would argue and say that Trump Tweets caused terrorists to kill people. I hear the left on CNN and all over blaming Trump for what he said. They said Trump was too aggressive. There is physical aggression which involves violence. My dad was always drinking when I was a kid. My dad was verbally abusive. My dad did not hit my mom but he was yelling. So, I have those memories.
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I think I agree in the NAP in withdrawing from the state. I think that is not a good enough strategy for making the world better or anything good. I know that corporal punishment can be a dangerous thing to do, especially when the government becomes too big and too corrupt and everything. It might be different if government was perfect enough. I try to tell myself to focus more on grace over justice. So, my definition of grace, mercy, kindness, agape, may include the NAP thing. I love the justice thing which involve wrath and revenge and giving people what they deserve and all. But as I get older, I start to consider more the opportunities and potential of a focus on grace.
Glad to see you're taking steps to avoid inheriting your Dad's temper.
My old man is a really good example to follow, and I see how easy it is to act like him. If he was a bastard, I'm not sure how I'd go fighting the urge to emulate.
Keep up the good work.
Good. Thanks. Agreed. I do not want to invade or conquer people.
yeah, if you treat children like property that you can hit, you'd be a contractualist at the top of the compass.
It's an interesting premise. Do you have anything more in-depth on the different extremes? I'd like to read up on it.
@mattclarke, Pied Piper is downvoting my posts. He uses aggression against me. @piedpiper is attacking me. He said that discipline is bad. He said discipleship is bad. I agreed with him that abused is bad. I agree. Assault is bad. Murder is bad. We agree but he continues to attack me. I am not attacking him but he is abusing me. He is trying maybe rape me.
Yeah, you guys are just going to downvote each other to oblivion.
You're calling him a fool, on his own post. That doesn't work here, and will cost you money.
You want my advice? Go do pretty much anything else, instead.
@mattclarke, I did not downvote him. I am taking your advice. But I wanted to tell you this before I left. @piedpiper said he was against aggression but then took aggression on me. He contradicted himself. He said that hitting children is abuse. I say it normally is and we should not hit children in normal situations. It should not be the normal thing to do. I said that there are some exceptions. He does not like that I believe in exceptions. But in generality, basically, I agree with him in a general way. But now he is downvoting me.
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Matt Clark, I took your advice. I LEFT. I WENT ON. BUT HE WENT TO MY STEEMIT PAGE AND DOWNVOTED MY POSTS. He is stalking me. He is assaulting me. He is spamming me.
Yes, it's a bad place to make enemies. Respectful disagreement seems to go down okay, but you've said some pretty inflammatory stuff about him.
Downvoting you costs him voting power though, so I'm sure he'll stop when he figures you've learned not to start trouble.
@mattclarke, you probably didn't like it when Trump Called Rosie a fat pig. You probably don't like it when Trump says certain things that are like insults. I love Trump and I do things like that. I believe in that kind of thing. I understand why and how people don't like it. But I cause problems. I am Alex Jones. I am V for Vendetta. I am Sparta. I am Jesus. I am whatever you want to call me. I believe in what I say and do and I will continue to do what I do.
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@piedpiper, I like all four corners of your game board.
What happens if you don't hit children?
If you don't hit children, those children won't be hit by you. Neat, huh? ;) Rather than obeying an illegitimate authority figure out of fear and learning that might makes right, they'll follow your example and seek your guidance voluntarily while learning logic, critical thinking, negotiation and creative problem solving skills.
@piedpiper, children do not always and only directly do from and by and through imputation from what they see parents and others do. The world is not that simple and I know people want to blame the parents and others and say that is how it works but this is not how it works and it is not that simple and we can do our best to help children but we cannot guarantee outcomes because destiny are ultimately up to each individual and person and kid.
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Kids do better when they learn critical thinking and everything else from people, especially from their own parents, and the sooner the better too. Kids do better, I agree, when they can have better examples and everything from people and especially parents.
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You need to hit people something. It is very important. That does not mean it is a fear thing. It is a love thing. Please reconsider this thing. When you do not hit, bad things happen. The whole thing is not a simple thing to describe. There might be exceptions.
No, hitting others is never love. It is assault. It's very simple.
@piedpiper, you live in a dream world that is incomplete. There are books and documentaries and people and evidence and prove and so many people and many things and history and psychology and theology and anthropology and sociology and culture and demographics and the DNA / genetics / genes and many things disagree with what you are saying? Deep inside you know I speak the truth but you were lied to about these things and you have held to your way of thinking concerning these things for so long but there is a world out there beyond your horizon and it involves LOVE NOT FEAR.
Dream world? Actually it's my real world that I live in every day. I have high standards for myself and my friends. I have no room in my life for people that assault helpless children.
@piedpiper, what you are saying is dumb. You are very mistaken. And you refuse to listen. You are so closed minded and that is very sad. You are too stubborn. Parents should hit kids like you.