That's the problem with the world. crap content rules, just look at music too. crap artists sell the most. Maybe one would adjust or keep to standard. quality pays in due time, crap pays faster than ever.
Memes, music and posts of any kind will be liked ot not, and that is not the point...
My questions are:
Is people getting to see your content to decide if they like it or not?
Are the incentives set so the system works?
What's the objective? Rewarding good content? Is that really happening?
Is this a decentralized system?
If people like music, pictures or posts that someone is making in 5 minutes rather that something that took you 3 days (I make videos that take a LOT of work) it's OK.
BUT, for what I've seen, some people can create the BEST content in the world and nobody is going to notice it. Other people don't even get the chance to NOT like it. It's invisible to them.
Maybe I'm not working hard enoug, maybe my content isn't that good... Maybe the system is broken.
I am very, very new here, I know that I'm not doing so bad for the time that I have been in #steemit, but I have seen some things that worry me. I think that the #reward system should be fixed.
I made a new twitter account and I tweet several times a day, an nobody even likes them. (They are awesome I promise) They don't even hand out money and you still have to cultivate and audience.
Nobody is going to make sure your awesome content gets noticed.
It's a hard truth, but you have to build relationships either through comments, voting bots or other promotion.
You are absolutely right. Some are more worried about making money than creating and upvoting good content. That's what's worrying me... I have realistic expectations, and I am still disappointed. Not because of the money, but because I feel that nobody cares, and probably that isn't even true, It just seems so...
I just checked out your blog, and I want to say "Hang in there." It has been up and down, and if you look at my old posts you will see I was ready to bail at one point. This whole thing with the OP and the others... I just don't know. I am a liberty lover, and a person declaring their self the guardian of the reward pool smacks a little of an ego trip, but I do agree the current "curation" is not working. That said, persistence has paid off, and with the kind of content you will bring you will get there. I have tried to just stay out of this war, the only thing I can say for certain is that both sides have valid points but there is very little useful communication happening, at least that I have seen.
Thank you very much for your feedback. I would be making the same content even if steemit didn't exist, so I don't plan to give up... I really wish that this issues get fixed because the idea behind is great...
this whole system of steemit was being pushed in flat earth so its most likely run by evil pimps of one ilk or another... I tried this, and by the looks of it, my content will get ignored... Just like it was when I started going viral on LInkedin, shut down due to my anti corporate message..... Sooner or later an actual free platform will emerge from the blockchain, not controlled by the long standing syndicate, probably on the skycoin net or something...
Just to be clear.
You MUST expect people wanting to make money over everything.
The system only works if they can only make real money BY making good content.
It's a matter of incentives, not morality. That's why OP is addressing ned.
We're all saying the same thing. Good content should be rewarded too because as it is, the system is skewed towards certain type while a lot of people who put in much work remain invisible. I guess everybody will learn to work the system as it is.
what's more funny? a steemian named @netuso (I believe), made a clear parody of another steemian's funny crypto growth analysis. the parody made $160 with a few people in the comment thanking him for the insight. So, I can imagine some of them starting to feed people what they love once in a while. (it pays)
We live in a instant gratification world today my friend. Unfortunately, and many cannot be bothered with anything that requires aptitude and full attention.
I believe those whale bid bots being used to upvote mediocre content need to be countered with a flag bot if possible. Steem needs a new hero. I thought it was going to be Bernie until I noticed he started randowhale back after he had went on the attack against another bid bot which seemed very promising.
An extremely powerful anti-bid bot may be able to save this platform but current design makes that a difficult solution due to how much SP bid bots accumulate.
For the record, when I was new to Steemit, I was fooled into using bid bots by what I now believe to be faulty logic. Something didn't sit right and now I neither self-vote or use bid bots. Something just feels real greasy about it. It's like playing competitive sports and everybody is juicing up. I'm not going to do it just because everybody else is even they are poised to gain through leveraging such tactics. This had served as a major deterrent from my investing in this platform to the degree I otherwise would have and do not think I am alone. It's just sad the way this place has gone.
@anthonyadavisii: Very interesting explanation about bots. I have seen them too, but something ridiculous too: Human calling themselves Bots.
Regarding Bidding for Upvotes is like believing that if I give some one 1 cent, I will get back $100. My mind is not used to that kind of magic logic.
My Philosophy on Uptvoting is burning Voting Power to those whose ideas impact my mind regarding my learning of the Steemit Blockchain and the execution of my work. Be a single line, 5, 10 or 20.
An author spending 2 hours in crafting a post is not something worthwhile? Well, I guess we should all just post cat videos (That doesn't take a lot of time or effort). Trending page here I come!
Just because it took me 2 hours to create doesn't mean it takes people 2 hours to read. I do post other things like memes and videos as well.
That's the problem with the world. crap content rules, just look at music too. crap artists sell the most. Maybe one would adjust or keep to standard. quality pays in due time, crap pays faster than ever.
Memes, music and posts of any kind will be liked ot not, and that is not the point...
My questions are:
If people like music, pictures or posts that someone is making in 5 minutes rather that something that took you 3 days (I make videos that take a LOT of work) it's OK.
BUT, for what I've seen, some people can create the BEST content in the world and nobody is going to notice it. Other people don't even get the chance to NOT like it. It's invisible to them.
Maybe I'm not working hard enoug, maybe my content isn't that good... Maybe the system is broken.
I am very, very new here, I know that I'm not doing so bad for the time that I have been in #steemit, but I have seen some things that worry me.
I think that the #reward system should be fixed.
I made a new twitter account and I tweet several times a day, an nobody even likes them. (They are awesome I promise) They don't even hand out money and you still have to cultivate and audience.
Nobody is going to make sure your awesome content gets noticed.
It's a hard truth, but you have to build relationships either through comments, voting bots or other promotion.
You are absolutely right. Some are more worried about making money than creating and upvoting good content. That's what's worrying me... I have realistic expectations, and I am still disappointed. Not because of the money, but because I feel that nobody cares, and probably that isn't even true, It just seems so...
I just checked out your blog, and I want to say "Hang in there." It has been up and down, and if you look at my old posts you will see I was ready to bail at one point. This whole thing with the OP and the others... I just don't know. I am a liberty lover, and a person declaring their self the guardian of the reward pool smacks a little of an ego trip, but I do agree the current "curation" is not working. That said, persistence has paid off, and with the kind of content you will bring you will get there. I have tried to just stay out of this war, the only thing I can say for certain is that both sides have valid points but there is very little useful communication happening, at least that I have seen.
Thank you very much for your feedback. I would be making the same content even if steemit didn't exist, so I don't plan to give up... I really wish that this issues get fixed because the idea behind is great...
this whole system of steemit was being pushed in flat earth so its most likely run by evil pimps of one ilk or another... I tried this, and by the looks of it, my content will get ignored... Just like it was when I started going viral on LInkedin, shut down due to my anti corporate message..... Sooner or later an actual free platform will emerge from the blockchain, not controlled by the long standing syndicate, probably on the skycoin net or something...
Just to be clear.
You MUST expect people wanting to make money over everything.
The system only works if they can only make real money BY making good content.
It's a matter of incentives, not morality. That's why OP is addressing ned.
I agree with that too
We're all saying the same thing. Good content should be rewarded too because as it is, the system is skewed towards certain type while a lot of people who put in much work remain invisible. I guess everybody will learn to work the system as it is.
Interesting. Bernie reateemed ‘Show us your tits Tuesday’ and got over $70 for it. Quality content to be sure. *heavy sarcasm.’
what's more funny? a steemian named @netuso (I believe), made a clear parody of another steemian's funny crypto growth analysis. the parody made $160 with a few people in the comment thanking him for the insight. So, I can imagine some of them starting to feed people what they love once in a while. (it pays)
Had to be said. Good job.
You have my upvote. I couldn't agree more. I'm also a new user who values quality content.
We live in a instant gratification world today my friend. Unfortunately, and many cannot be bothered with anything that requires aptitude and full attention.
TRUTH spoken dude
Hahahah, crap pays more than ever like in music. I like this one hey
Haha, well, that's what goes these days.
very true
"people" you mean self-voters or those abusing whale auto-votes?
I believe those whale bid bots being used to upvote mediocre content need to be countered with a flag bot if possible. Steem needs a new hero. I thought it was going to be Bernie until I noticed he started randowhale back after he had went on the attack against another bid bot which seemed very promising.
An extremely powerful anti-bid bot may be able to save this platform but current design makes that a difficult solution due to how much SP bid bots accumulate.
For the record, when I was new to Steemit, I was fooled into using bid bots by what I now believe to be faulty logic. Something didn't sit right and now I neither self-vote or use bid bots. Something just feels real greasy about it. It's like playing competitive sports and everybody is juicing up. I'm not going to do it just because everybody else is even they are poised to gain through leveraging such tactics. This had served as a major deterrent from my investing in this platform to the degree I otherwise would have and do not think I am alone. It's just sad the way this place has gone.
@anthonyadavisii: Very interesting explanation about bots. I have seen them too, but something ridiculous too: Human calling themselves Bots.
Regarding Bidding for Upvotes is like believing that if I give some one 1 cent, I will get back $100. My mind is not used to that kind of magic logic.
My Philosophy on Uptvoting is burning Voting Power to those whose ideas impact my mind regarding my learning of the Steemit Blockchain and the execution of my work. Be a single line, 5, 10 or 20.
yes@bayareacoins
That's purely a matter of opinion. Many people enjoy reading copious amounts of information. Crazy you got 5 upvotes for that thoughtless comment...
An author spending 2 hours in crafting a post is not something worthwhile? Well, I guess we should all just post cat videos (That doesn't take a lot of time or effort). Trending page here I come!