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RE: Steemcleaners Report for 22 September, 2019

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Going in and downvoting is just a complete waste of effort at that point.

Is it though? It's not uncommon that people find content that's plagiarized and received payout through unaware voters and/or promotions.

Part of @steemcleaners agreement with STINC is that they can't use that stake to upvote. I mean, you can't argue against the lender who set those terms.

Remember, most people with decent stake don't want to curate. It's easier to be content agnostic. Posts, or "content", as most call it are nothing more than placeholders for "proof of click" mining.

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Is it though? It's not uncommon that people find content that's plagiarized and received payout through unaware voters and/or promotions.

Who's the victim here?

I've been flagged multiple times for re-posting my OWN content from other forums and websites (I am now 100% in compliance after being threatened with downvotes). In the discord channel (kangaroo-court), I saw many other new steemians were complaining about the exact same thing.

I don't give a rip if someone likes what I have to say and re-posts it.

Re-posting does no harm to the original author.

If you want your words protected, then it is your responsibility to register them with the copyright office and it is then your responsibility to hunt down violators of your registered copyright and report them to the legal authorities.

The central conceit of @steemcleaners is that "simply because we can find something similar with a quick google search, this DOES NOT mean that the google search has revealed the ORIGINAL AUTHOR and it furthermore does not mean that the text discovered in the quick google search is protected by any sort of registered copyright.

If you want to enforce "attribution", then the cheetahbot already does that in a polite manner.

No downvote required.

Who's the victim here?

Every paid out reward devalues your stake. If they are going towards plagiarism, I can't imagine the value going up soon.

https://steempeak.com/@shadesofblack

This is just one of many examples people thought a legitimate group is on Steem, but turned out they weren't.

Do you think the group was happy to be on Steem then? Fuck no. Steem is just some shady den of thieves to the outside world.

If you want to enforce "attribution", then the cheetahbot already does that in a polite manner.

That's pointless. Whaleshares did exactly that, even got rid of flags, guess where their token went? Worth almost nothing. People stop creating when they realize posts are just placeholders for votes; hence "account preservation posts".

If you think many of us here have not been observing how different forks of Steem played out, you are sadly mistaken.

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Part of @steemcleaners agreement with STINC is that they can't use that stake to upvote. I mean, you can't argue against the lender who set those terms.

Hmmm, if that's the case, why isn't their voting power at 100%?

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Check their downvote power. It's at 5%.

When you go below that, it starts to use your normal VP under HF 21/22.

If you are talking about the rando upvote. That probably shouldn't have happened. But, that's their internal affair. Not ours.

Ok, thanks for the explanation!

What do you think about a bid-bot being @steemcleaners 2nd highest upvote supporter?

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I'm pretty sure that's a "curation sniper".

Many people vote early on SC posts because they know @adm will upvote it eventually, which yields curation greater than their vote value.

Since the HF21, bots have been doing some "manual" curating or change their algorithm to cover the loss of sales.

Thanks for all the info. I wasn't aware that people could do this. I'm just trying to get my bearings so I can play this (steemit) game more efficiently.