Steemit is a content platform. That's what the author rewards are for.
Yeah, that's what I originally thought as well. Posting a single picture or a link isn't exactly what most people would consider "valuable." Links can be found anywhere and even most photography isn't valued anywhere close to the payouts seen on this site. A few cents for stock/landscape images is what you'd get almost anywhere else. I think the original, long-form content is what adds the actual value to this site content-wise. Other social factors can add value - such as sharing links and reblogging - but I don't believe that this is how the limited rewards should be allocated.
Sharing links, sharing content of others, is what the "Decline Payout" option is for....Keep the rewards for people who don't simply post a link, video, picture or short text from someone else.
Exactly. I have no problem with people sharing content like that. I'll even upvote it once in a while. But I really don't think we need to create more curation guilds just for that type of content - and I honestly don't think the people posting that stuff actually care if they're being rewarded for it. It doesn't take more than a few seconds to drop a link or copy-paste an image into the editor. It doesn't take more than a few minutes to write a couple of lines for a "status update."
I think this will only generate more ill-will towards each other. Content creators vs. "link spammers." The latter getting rewarded just like the former probably wouldn't sit well with most people. We don't need to find ways to curate link-dropping. We need to find ways to make this platform more attractive for social media users - attractive in ways that aren't centered around "making money." That isn't what draws people to social media, as we can see from nearly every other social media site. It's about time that Steemit starts figuring this out.
No one wants to reward "link spammers" - it is of course not all black and white. There are many thoughtful short form posts and/or where the author links to interesting content.
Of course. There's lots of useful content that we can link to here on Steemit. But I just don't see how that adds value to Steemit and why that necessitates another curation group to specifically reward those who put up the links. What problem are you trying to solve with this initiative?
I'd assume the problem they're trying to solve is that there is nothing currently bringing value to Steemit. Post quality is dropping, engagement is dropping, users are dropping... If Steemit, inc. won't do anything to encourage adoption it's up to the community to make an effort and that's what I see being done here.
Right. But the problem then isn't that short posts aren't being rewarded. The problem is that the platform sucks for that type of social media use. The problem is development, not rewards and engagement. The latter will come when the former is fixed.
I think that bots have a lot to do with engagement. Newbies are disappointed because nobody reply. Me as curator also. If I find good post bots jump on it and I get no reward.
As a new person to Crypto and trying hard to learn so much, and then investing time making content, I honestly get bummed I work hard and get nothing, no engagement, no reward for most of my stuff. I basically left for 30 days because of this. I make sure every day I sign in here, to share the heck and resteem and upvote good content, I reblog a ton to help others and the site. No real rewards, the weights for things and work makes no sense, -- the average person does not get enough traction or have enough followers to give weight to their case. Just speaking freely. Something is not right here. I would like to see the smart people like all you guys in this post chatting about stuff I don't understand, help. I know you are working on it! TY for your time.
Links are mentioned in our post as examples of different types of content, but pure links were not the focus of this post. This post is about the community being open to shorter posts as a different type of content. The problem we are addressing is a lack of engagement in the content and a model + community behavior that currently favors only one type of content, which limits Steemit as a social media site. Did we announce any new initiatives or curation guilds? If so, I missed that part.
All my posts can be considered short form, as I post a video, a few lines of original text, and a picture. My posts earn average $5 per post, that's a start, I figure when the value of steem goes up I will earn $50 per post, and that is fair
That is platform-wide and it has little to do with the length of posts.
Well, you did say this in the post:
It may not be an official, new curation guild, but it certainly sounds like a new initiative to identify and curate certain posts by a group of people. I don't know what else we can call this. "Curation guild" seems to fit.
@craig-grant
I also upvote some of your posts. I don't discriminate based on how many words you typed. I don't think most other users do it that way either. If we like your content, we'll upvote it.
Besides - it's not the average user that skews the post rewards anyway. And if it's a problem with engagement, well...provide more engaging content. However, we first need to attract more engaging users - which requires the ability to attract users and to retain them.