I've had growing concerns over the actions of the CEO of Steemit Inc. for a while now, but at the point that personal drama is now being aired out publicly on the blockchain, I feel that it's time to express my concerns publicly and hopefully inspire some self reflection and change to some issues that I feel are fundamentally devaluing the platform. While I am perfectly aware that I have no authority over what you do with your own personal stake, I am hoping that you will consider the points I am about to make carefully and why I am bringing them up. Hopefully you will take the criticism in a constructive manner and realize that I am one of the people that have been working for over a year now to help grow this platform and that there is clearly some disconnect with your vision or actions and the actual users of the platform.
My first issue is obviously the screenshot above. Users drive value to a currency just as much as investors and while both are necessary, you know as well as we do that the value of STEEM increases with more users. If you really feel like your words are worth almost $2000 USD each (after the community has flagged it down considerably) then I think you are drastically out of touch with the average users and content creators on this platform. If this was a more simple blockchain that was solely based on proof-of-stake or proof-of-work, perhaps I would feel differently, but considering we have actual content creators on the platform earning pennies it draws a stark comparison and really hurts our image to see the CEO do this.
My second issue is that your delegations seem to be focused more on ways to grow your personal token holdings instead of actually retaining users to increase the value of the platform. While I do agree that there is some value to the apps you have delegated to or some of the people you've delegated to in hopes of growing the user base in other countries, there are many small communities and even large ones that actually work tirelessly without taking profits for themselves to grow and retain the user base that could much more efficiently put half a million SP of stake weight to use than delegating out to a single person. I come from a business background and I understand the need to make money on our investments, but the CEO of the company should be equally focused on growing value of the actual platform instead of personal wealth in my humble opinion.
I fully admit that I do not know you personally and I cannot claim to know your intentions, but perception of the people that are using your platform does matter. I would encourage you to be more transparent about development of the platform and to actually take community suggestions and requests into consideration. Drawing comparison to GOLOS, we can see features that have been being requested for over a year now already implemented and working that we can't even get a response on. I'm sure there are dynamics to steering a growing company of this size that complicate your interactions or create potential conflicts of interests, but transparency and integrity are things that I feel most of the community value greatly. Hopefully you take my concerns into consideration and we continue to grow and thrive as a team that is much larger than the company itself for all of the users that consider steemit to have the potential to change the world and revolutionize content creation and social media.
The vote and comment was strictly to make a point and draw out Daniel's long-running, subtextual, subversive intent to compete with Steem, to give the public alignment with his private discourse, which has long been filled with express intent to compete. And of course I will retract the vote.
Dan left Steem expressly to create a competitor to Steem and is advertising it with a supposed “inside track” to the future here on our platform while acting like he is no competitor. And whether he leaves the platform for good today or 6 months from now to join his Steem-competitor depends on if we choose to see through his intentions and care. It’s possible I am making the mistake of caring. It’s hard to really say until these platforms have existed for a while 10 months from now. I would prefer to ship our tokenization platform, Smart Media Tokens (SMTs), which outcompetes any version eos can string together, and get moving without Dan clouding the marketplace. He asked me for the same months ago. This is reasonable and all business. I vastly prefer Steem and SMTs.
More info on Smart Media Tokens (SMTs) at https://SMT.steem.io
Ok Ned but the other day you defended Cardano which is an EOS competitor. So if Steem is also an EOS competitor then you defended other competition over EOS.. Why pick and choose which platforms arent allowed to advertise on decentralized social media? I have seen SmartCash on here advertising. Do you not want peer plays and bitshares to post here? Couldnt someone make an SMT that directily competes with them? So should you kick them both off the platform? It just seems like a slippery slope you are trying to pick and choose from who to censor on censorship resistant social media. I hope you learn from the backfire. Even many witnesses were disgusted by your actions.
You act like competition is horrible. This is a free market. and I believe most users of this platform encourage free markets and healthy competition. I WANT A STEEM COMPETITOR, and so should you unless you want this place to be Myspace next year. Its never the case that THERE CAN BE ONLY ONE social media site. THERE CAN BE ONLY ONE BOOK STORE. THERE CAN BE ONLY ONE GAS STATION! Do you see how dumb this argument is? So why are you trying to kill competition? It makes you look weak and scared.
This is a social Media site. Dan has a right to use a social media site like any other person. If he talks about his work and what hes doing and people are interested, that shit has NOTHING to do with you Ned. Mute him if you want. Don't fling shit at eachother in front of the whole community.
Its of my personal opinion that you poked the bear.. and 2 weeks ago Steemit didnt have much to worry about. Now Steem has a company with a billion dollars, and a genius developer with a vendetta to worry about. There will definitely be a social media competitor on EOS, you made that a certainty with your comment the other day.
Do better, ask the community before you do things like that. We are the thing that will make or break Steemit.. Not you, you will only affect the communities decisions..
Competition is healthy and this is a social media site that any people are allowed to post whatever they want, even Dan Larimer is allowed to have a social media site on a decentralized media platform.
I fully support Steem, but its not like I dont want competition to keep Steem working hard on progress and becoming better.
Understand that any plans seeming “reactionary” out of Dan have actually been planned and plotted for a long time. The only reason his competitor doesn’t exist today is the infrastructure needed to be built first—this is timing. Timing in PR as much as development.
Competition is a good thing and it was always coming. Embrace it. Compete on your terms. Build better product.
There was always going to be competition. Find our strengths. Build strengths.
Now we are in open competition. Embrace it. Flaunt it. Savor it.
We have SMTs. They never can.
Are you "high" or something?
Details matter on these platforms. Here are the important ones on this issue (copy pasted from @dana-edwards recent post https://steemit.com/steem/@dana-edwards/its-a-very-bad-idea-to-power-down-or-sell-steem-right-now-1518490604)
It's actually much more safe, valuable, effective to build these on Steem than any general platform, eos or anything else. I wouldn't dare code these on a general platform and purport they would work very well nor that they could have the same economic benefits to the core token. Ultimately, the idea of general purpose blockchains will also mean meta Proof of Brain tokens are limited by bad bandwidth or transaction pricing and other economic pitfalls, and in the end, application-specific blockchains will over-win opportunities like layered Proof of Brain tokens, such as SMTs.
Check out these sections of the SMT whitepaper. It mentions Ethereum, and the drawbacks of eos will apply just the same:
What Makes SMTs Better Suited to Application-Specific Blockchains, such
as Steem, than Application-General Blockchains, such as Ethereum? 53
SMTs are Safer and More Cost Effective in Application-Specific Blockchain Environments
. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 54
SMTs on Steem have Aligned Proof-of-Brain Incentives with the Core Token . 54
SMTs on Steem Have Transaction Pricing that Contributes to a Quality User
Experience . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 55
SMTs Benefit from a Blockchain that has Scaling Processes Programmed to a
Specialized Set of Applications . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 55
SMTs Benefit from a Blockchain with Content Management System (CMS)
Primitives . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 56
How will you prevent a DAPP like "eosteem" that lives on EOS to adapt SMTs-like approach (not EOS itself BUT a DAPP on EOS)?
no one is trying to prevent it in the slightest. an SMT model on a general platform will always be hamstrung by its inability to cooperate with pricing agents (witnesses) by getting parts of its contracts specially priced (like SMTs on Steem are proposed to do). just check out the intersection of Market Maker Pools and bandwidth allocations in the Whitepaper. Steps simply must be taken to make tokens first class - that’s what Steem can go out of its way to do where general purpose cannot.
Yes, embrace, flaunt, savor it! Visionaries aren’t afraid of a little heat, in fact they enjoy it. Turn it up I say.
https://steemit.com/steem/@dan/today-i-submitted-my-resignation-to-steemit-inc
Thanks for the red herring.
Thanks sneak. I feel like I have seen this before. It is worth noting I guess though I need to go back and find complete context. I personally am fine with a person changing their minds. I have friends that quit Facebook weekly, Ron Paul changed his mind about the death penalty, Snowden changed his mind about working for the NSA. Though I am interested to know how long he didn't post for after that, and what he started posting about when he came back.
The community basically begged him to keep blogging. He has a mass of appreciation just for his ideas, nevermind his innovations.
what ideas specifically—legitimate original ideas are practically impossible to come by—even Steem(new token emissions like points in social media) had been dreamed up many times before we got to it
Another red herring. I never said anything about originality.
I'm about to change my mind about my previous decision to not downvote apologists.
I excused Ned for saying stupid shit. I excused dan for saying he wasnt going to post here anymore. I guess I am a through and through apologist. It probably comes from me understanding I'm not perfect. If I'm ever wrong and change my mind. I would like people to understand. So maybe my empathy causes me to be an apologist. I apologize? but downvote what you must. Being able to forgive people their MINOR faults/mistakes is a bad trait I have I guess.
Judging by this post he was only gone for 1 month, and according to the responses the majority of people that are on Steemit appeared to be glad to have him back.
I am also glad you are here too sneak. Someone needs to fight Haejin and I'm not powerful enough. So even if you downvote and hate me for whatever that your mad about, you are appreciated.
An "apologist" is somebody who offers a defense for something controversial. Controversy is anything that causes heated arguments and disagreements - in other words, fucking important shit.
Thank you so much for playing the devils advocate, for being understanding, and for being an "apologist". Thanks for not being a sheep. And thanks for not being an asshole.
I would have given this comment a higher vote, but I am saving my VP for curation of the Venezuelan folks since I was delegated SP by same. This reply deserves a 500% upvote!
We won't change our minds about poor hiring decisions and childish, power corrupted assholes on the steemit payroll acting like children, much like this ridiculous comment of yours here proves so well, and ned's little play at idiocy and backpedaling the day after here, when obvious feud is months old and so obviously fear based, so what's your point, little man @sneak?
Here here! The competition can't come soon enough!
HOLY SHIT don't get me started man...
@sneak We can't avoid reasoning; we can only avoid doing it well.
I can't imagine working directly for any of the US govt intel agencies. The whole concept of intel goes hand and hand with corruption, but lately it has gotten so bad lately that major players arent even tryin to hide it anymore. Imagine actually having a conscience while having to report to someone such as Jaames Comey, or Eric Holder. Imagine actually knowing the truth behind all of the bullshit conspiracies that are relevant atm
Quintessential common business sense, you are right on the mark. Not a CEO, Anarchocapitalist (still trying to get a good grasp of what the label truly means) or business man myself, but have worked in the business sector as a marketing director for a short time, so I agree with the statement:
Read me right: Competition is a good thing. Embrace it. Flaunt it. Savor it. Build better product.
When you have competitors—make them known to you—find them—analyze them—pick them apart—find good things—see weaknesses—take ideas—beat them. Enjoy it.
Just dont turn this competition into another petty flag war. Rather show us the "product".
Yes if you saw a petty flag war—look deeper or just read my original comment
So it has been 2 months and no product. What's the hold-up? EOS will be launching very soon. Not much time left. There are already functioning platforms that work very much like steemit does. ONO which will launch soon after EOS is launched, for one.
Thank your for the clarification of your statement young sir. Maybe if you would have explained the reason for downvoting Mr. Larimer's article on EOS instead of just using the term aggrandizement, folks would not be so angry right now. The action was perceived to be a personal attack upon Mr. Larimer by many. As he is respected by a great deal of people on this platform, it would be expected that folks would come to his defense.
It is my perception, through my observations, the observation of others and following the projects and point papers, that Mr. Larimer is a visionary and genius. Like many folks of that personality persuasion they begin projects and leave the oversight/management to others. Not necessarily a case of ADHD, as young Nate described Mr. Larimer some months ago in my hearing, but the way of idea people. Even if Mr. Larimer does in fact have what some term ADHD is that a bad thing? I would fair to say that DaVinci, Bell, Edison would all be described the same way if they lived in our present world.
Sir, you have made a mistake. That is fine. We are all human. Instead of excuses, you would do better to ask forgiveness and move on. Their is nothing wrong with admitting our errors and seeking reconciliation with those we have offended. One of the parties must make the first step in mending the fence. I have a great deal of personal experience in this area. Be sure though that you do not end your apology with a phrase beginning with but. That negates the mea culpa and also no one cares about your butt (except maybe a girlfriend/boyfriend).
Some of us have beat you up enough, now it is time for us to dust you off and tell you why we were angry. Let us move on to the next controversy. Is that not the way of woman and man kind?
I’m not here to apologize—I’m here to rally Steem against undermining forces. Read my original comment and understand why it happened. It’s time to compete openly.
Your self aggrandizing upvote had the opposite effect Ned. I can see there's no use seeking an apology nor would it do much good at this point. If you really wanted the community to stand with you and compete then you should have stood with them when they requested that you reverse the mistake of the last hardfork.
People have no faith in a platform where the 40-51% stakeholder is the only one we can really depend on to develop the blockchain as they have the greatest incentive to move us in the right direction but stubbornly turn their backs on us when somebody says this direction was recommended by "Dan Larimer". Just say the name and you're suddenly unapproachable.
I had hoped the reaction from the community would teach you something but you're still trying to beat down the competitor or any comments in their favour instead of listening to the community and moving this ship in the direction for growth.
I trust that you and the team have been working hard. That I'm sure of. Don't let bitterness get in the way. It's you that's drinking the poison to defeat your enemy. You're drinking it.
Gave some advice. If business is in fact more important than preserving a friendship, or at least mutual respect, then I have no reply to your reply. But, since I always like to have the last word, I am replying. I am old and it is one of my quirks.
Too many read into the noise of all of this, and very few see the signal (the true message). Your a strange mix of both randomness and conventional sapience. This is the true @ned that v.few get to see ... until now! Keep it up! ... "Full Steem ahead!!" :-)
All that glitters is not gold...
Some "ghost" miners creating coins "out of thin air" to reward themselves boggles my mind. Some "good trustworthy" miners running computer softwares that give you your personal and public Keys through their computer programs means they already have both your public AND private keys and capable to hack your account ANYTIME they want. How can I believe these " do-no-evil" miners telling me that the bitcoins decrease with time when they can create them out of thin air ANYTIME to reward themselves?? Crypto-currency is one big MATRIX system and those without common sense will fall for it. Crypto-technology is what "cooks" the book, or rather its better to say it is what "cooks" the block-chain and keeps the matrix alive.
There is no longer any such thing as a steem miner, and has't been since pre-public-launch in 2016... So this is all sort of ???
Miners did exist after launch. They lasted for several hardforks actually. They were voted out.
Ah that is correct, and I stand corrected, your Pirate Queen-ness of Lore! :)
You may have thought you were making that point @Ned. Your actions made a much louder point. You showed yourself unable to respond in a business like manner. It really doesn't matter if you knew, suspected or just wondered if EOS was going to result in a competitor. You should have been long ago expecting a competitor was going to appear and been diligently making steady consistent progress building this platform into what it can be.
While much might be going on behind the scenes, what the users and public sees doesn't show much indication of anything but navel gazing happening. Who cares if EOS or anyone else is going to build a competitor? Don't just talk about what is coming and then go into radio silence on the topic.
There has been an ongoing lack of communication from Steemit Inc for months. It shows a lack of respect for the users, especially the dedicated users who have faith in the future of the platform even in the face of seeing little to no forward progress.
You might not like that Dan posts progress reports here on Steemit. He is still a user here. There is no reason for him not to post if he chooses to. I for one would not have even seen his post if not for your behaviour. So, you drew attention to him and his project, currently and in the future.
After months of you pretty much MIA around the platform, you show up by pulling a stunt anything but indicative of the CEO of a serious firm. That is the point you made. You've also imprinted the impression that your actions directly led to the EOS competitor. I may be dead wrong but you know, perception is everything.
Now that you've shown your colours and your voting power. Maybe it's time you took some action to resolve the ongoing haejin issue. That is a greater threat to this platform than anything Dan will do, IF you lead Steemit.inc to build this platform into what it should be.
Yes don’t you see I have never stopped building throughout our time? Visit the SMT whitepaper. I always expect competition. I just don’t like when competition masquaurades as friend while planning to compete. The community deserves to know.
Regardless of all, I do it all for the vision. Empowering entrepreneurs to tokenize the web with Steem.
Again - thank you for that @ned!
"Regardless of all, I do it all for the vision. Empowering entrepreneurs to tokenize the web with Steem."
This is what @ned has been saying for a long time. He didn't say he wanted to build a social media site, in fact he has been pretty clear about this.
I am unclear how others keep thinking it should be his goal to build the SteemIt site. He has said it over and over with his words and his actions.
He is working on a blockchain, not the social media site. Whether I like that decision or not, I have accepted it.
I do appreciate the response and obviously many of us care greatly about this platform. Competition isn't really a concern as it's still a ways off and hopefully SMTs will have solidified STEEM into a much higher market cap as we will be viable for community tokens and potentially ICOs. I remain optimistic for the future and hopefully the drama blows over. Glad to hear you will be removing that vote and thanks again for taking the time to respond.
@clayboyn It's a different thing when your business partner, who left the business and leaves you hanging in the open, starts a new one and then comes back to the previous business, just to brag about how amazing the new one is.
You're defending his actions with his feelings. As though a child having a public tantrum because he dropped his ice cream is somehow justifiable.
Dan left Ned with a working gold-mine. And he left because of what he couldn't achieve with steem which could very well be due to his team not having his back.
Nobody's saying Ned should he happy to see his ex partners progress or gloating or "aggrandizement" if you insist on calling it that, but the mature and constructive thing to do is to carry on building your own business and leave others to theirs. In comparison to how much we hear about progress at steemit inc, we hear more about EOS from @NED himself.
Regardless of what "feelings" provoked his actions, they've only instilled doubt and insecurity for the whole community.
The mature thing to do is embrace competition rather than pretend it doesn’t exist. Embrace it. Objectively analyze it. Do your damndest. Enjoy it.
You're not embracing it you're constantly knocking it. To embrace it would be to say here's what they do right and where we could learn something. Or here's where they hold the advantage and what attracts our current users. Now let's see if we can fill the same needs and do better. Instead you're just pointing out flaws and telling people what to think.
Sounds like fear from people who know he built them and their wallets and their titles with his brains, and now he's building something better and it terrifies them.
I deal with it too, now that I run the second streaming network I have built and and its a better more robust system than the first attempt related to the platform
And there has been plenty of grief after building and resigning from the first one because of fools involved in it too. I know Dan's pain here.
Cheers, thanks for asking me these questions.
Hi Ned i need your help i don't know how can i talk with you by private i hope you will see this message !
But... you didn't actually answer them, @ned, you just copy-pasta'd the same shit you've said on every other thread about this and it's not a satisfactory show of accountability whatsoever, it's pathetic back-peddling in the face of an entire community calling you dumb right now.
It actually accomplished a specific goal. To uncover their hidden plans to compete. They jumped at the opportunity to announce - if you didn’t notice.
I’m all for competition if it must be - I wasn’t for subversive contradictory, pre competitive narratives.
Here’s how I explained it to the Witnesses
Now we build. SMTs outcompete. Communities out network. Build or die regardless.
More on SMTs at https://SMT.Steem.io
I think I get it now. Your thinking was Dans building a competitor and everybody should know about it, so lets push him into a corner and give him the perfect opportunity to announce a competitor by showing just how corrupt our own system is.
yes - kind of hilarious they would blame creation of a competitor entirely on the superficial vote of one guy - demeans their mission and what they owe their investors -
better to understand the reality - it was planned by them all along..
Exactly. And that's what they did on telegram & Co. Good job.
Oh and where did you explain this @ned to a Witness? Personal conversation? Or your top-secret-private Slack?
Hidden plans? Really? It's a block chain built by the same guy that built this one. If you think his agenda is hidden, how did you ever become a CEO who is barely old enough to be out of college?
I was busy being live hosting a show on the SteemStar Network streaming network promoting steem and steemians with a couple other witnesses (im in the 70s myself) during that dialog or I certainly would have been there.
Many of us have spent 1000s of hours on this platform each, building it and by extension you, up. I'd ask you to keep that in mind with your actions, as @clayboyn has done.
As my business mentors would say, you ain't too big to fail and you are as only as strong as your customer loyalty.
As my momma would say, you ain't too big to spank.
Get a grip and restrain yourself. The theater is just not serving your goal whatsoever, and made you look really bad.
As I understand the history, Dan sort of handed you this life. You might want to think through before pissing him off.
Steem was nothing but 6 guys when we started. Dan was an integral, catalyzing part - meaning yeah there’d be no steem without him - but there’d be no Steem without the others too - would Dan have built something else? Sure. Would it have been a success? can’t be said. It’s the same for the Eos “team”. The entire founding team of Steem were integral for their strengths. Steem development has gone from worth nothing to near failure and back again several times. Just read the SMT paper if you think this all has to do with one person. We happen to be stronger than ever. Im now working with the most talented CTO I’ve ever had the privelege to, Harry Schmidt. And we have only been growing since Dan left Steem at an all time low. Just look at the STEEM price.
So do I thank Dan for his talents and years of work - yes very much for specific moments and times I certainly do. On the whole do I thank him? On the whole, Im neutral, there were a lot of mistakes and worse that balance it out, and I’m certainly not thanking him for continuing to grow Steem. Better to clean break and move on, and we build, and old hats stop holding on to past projects crafting potential to scoop this community into a new, less competitive, evvacuous bucket. They have something like $3B USD - more than enough to go to market without clinging to old hen house riling up the roost for interpersonal, competitive reasons.
In light of all these “competitors” I vastly prefer Steem and SMTs for its application specific advantages as we tokenize the web.
More on SMTs at https://SMT.Steem.io
It is never a mistake to care for a good cause
but it has drawn in a lot of negative attention to the subject of
that isn't really something I would highlight (yet)
during these unstable times, we should be
unitedThank you for clarifying this @Ned @Dan supposedly creating a "Steem"2.0
not
divided
Kudos to a system that works without bias.Well all many persons wanted from being active on that post by Dan was curations.. I remember waking up to see this toggle and was particularly happy not because of the dispute but because a lot of @steemit faithfuls were rewarded amongst the toggle.
I knew that you wanted to make a statement and I agree with you on that. Again, thank you @ned for your hard work! SMT's will be a gamechanger. And without any of this, Steem would be the same marketcap as golos.
hi @ned i want to ask you an advice :) i want to make a project trough steemit i think you can help me to start up this project i want to talk with you on discord you can find me with the same username ! thanks
Aggrandizement.
Now we compete. No more aggrandization getting in the way.
The mature course of action for us, meaning you me and all of Steem, is embrace competition rather than pretend it doesn’t exist. When you have competitors—make them known to you—find them—analyze them—pick them apart—find good things—see weaknesses—take ideas—beat them. Enjoy it.
We have Smart Media Tokens (SMTs). They never can.
They have something strong, whichever project they are, then we take it. And we make it better.
Compete, move faster. Win.
A new SMT has been created in your name: AggrandizementCoin
Thank you. I will sharedrop these on dan.
Hello @ned I hope all of these end well🤭🤭🤭🤭🤭
Hey @ned, the Steemit Daily Dose is back again! I passed you a mention thanking you for resetting my password. Do drop by soon :)
Lols
At last..
An actual good use for a coin
Please upvote my post @ned thanks.
天下武功，无坚不破，唯快不破 - Kung Fu Hustle
If you favor competition so much why do you favor some with delegations while making the rest of us 'compete' with only what we get from posting 'good' content?
I'll concede some support for the dapps as good for sign ups, but when you picked individual winners from the crowd you disadvantaged everybody else that had to do it the old fashioned way.
It's no secret that our votes are larger when less sp is voting.
The masses are ignorant of that fact, they buy into the voting bots not knowing that they are running on treadmills that they rent from the bot owners.
You do know, sir.
Please take steps to end this madness.
Ned should be the role model of the platform. He is the CEO. Where in the fucking world could you have a CEO of ANY company act the way he does? It is completely adverse to the platform and he does exactly what we hope users do not do. This extreme self voting is disrespectful to the people who make steem great with great content and also to Dan. We have no hope unless the people in charge: Ned, Sneak, either change their ways or are removed from their positions.
I want steem to succeed and not fall apart. Obviously he either doesn't care or is completely ignorant to this. Greed could play a role. But I am completely in the same mind set as you @clayboyn, and i think there needs to be more transparency and more active development from the people being paid to do so.
Thanks for bring more attention to this matter. Stinc really gets on my nerves.
The great thing about a blockchain is they can outlive the usefulness of the people that were left in charge of them. I pointed to GOLOS for a reason, and while I seriously hope things don't end up having to go that way again, this is why blockchains are disruptive and unable to be permanently controlled by anyone. Let's hope for a more positive resolution to these issues before resorting to the most dire of solutions.
Good point. We are not reliant on them. BUT, they do set a bad image for the platform and are bad role models for our newest members. They play too big a role in the future of the platform whether we like it or not. I wish Ned would be more receptive to his critiques so that we could hope for a positive outcome and path in this regard.
ALL OF THIS @nicnas and as long as sheep keep following these nim-nods blindly and revering them without a good reason, we will have this sort of immaturity and ridiculous behavior continuing. Bunch of spoiled, new money fools, and you know what? DAN LARIMER MADE THEM, and they know it and he terrifies them now that he's gone on to eliminate their dead weight and make the next big hit they cannot compete with.
Isn’t Trump kind of a CEO that acts like that?
Be the change you want to see in this world.
Exactly my friend!
Agreed....that $2000 need to go to this post:
https://steemit.com/impersonators/@aantonop/the-real-aantonop
I apologize in advance to direct your readers and followers, but for the sake of Steem and for everyone all over the world who needs Steem to succeed, please know this is important:
Andreas Antonopoulos 1st Steemit Post Ever!
Please go check out this this 1st time post by Andreas Antonopoulos, as you know this guy is the biggest advocate for bitcoin from 2011 to 2017, and because of his endorsement and technological argument for ETH function in 2016 & early 2017, ETH adoption went from $5 to $500.
Someone like him needs to hear feedback from real people on Steem, somebody like him don't give 2 fcuks about getting rich of crypto, he needs to know if this is something that will change society and blockchain technology, and that Steem is far from just another sensationalized shit coin....and we know it's not
Andreas needs to know Steem is life changing, and if he spend even a little time on Steemit he will. If he someday will invest time to help Steem get better....just 1 great idea from him that gives birth to widely adopted Steem DAP and Steem can rise another
$100/$200/$500/ easily $500 and allow us to reach and payout more people all over the world than ever before, especially in 3rd world countries.There are a number of old school Steemians replying back to Andreas like the glass is half empty....that's just terrible way to convince Andrea.
He needs to see the positive about Steem, it the way he see things best...into the future....he must see Steem as the gateway crypto for the next 25-50miliion non-cryto users, not investors, but actual users in the next 18-36months...he need to see this badly so he can learn that Steem will change the power struggle and give the power (economy) back to the people, then he will consider Steem and not all the stupid FUD-mongers who's got a bone to pick with a handful of Steem-Whales.
Please see my reply to Andrea to consider using Steemit, appreciate any support you can give by upvoting his 1st post generously so it's stay on trending for the next 7 days or longer.
Highest Regards,
dj123
I'm actually glad you shared that as I had no idea. Resteemed it as well.
I do not know what is going on in this platform. I just see the picture that, @dan the most social person here. and @ned included a thoughtful person. I hope this platform continues to grow because for me this platform is a window for people's economy. hopefully this will be a certain blessing and can provide a positive thing for the people around the world. thanks so much...I love you both
EOS vs STEEM= RIPPLE vs STELLAR
I think competition would make a company thrive, without a competition you get bored, but with competition it makes your heart bit fast, then survival instinct will arise and will correspond to creativity.
This is what I pictured yesterday.
Well done @clayboyn. Some are saying ballsy move. Not at all, it shows your integrity and dedication to the platform which you clearly. Anyone should be able to address concerns like this openly and honestly. Isn't that was this community is about?
I am truly hoping @ned responds. Not as a means of 'having to explain himself' None of us should have to do that, but to answer some of the questions you have. It is never good when the view of the top people are one thing and the view from the bottom is different.
I absolutely agree about transparency and integrity being one of the key issues in the community. If not there would be no need for steemcleaners and the like.
Thank you for sharing your view
I put up with a lot of crap on this site, @ned’s actions here are really beyond the pale. Downvote a deny-payment post and then self-upvote your own snarky comment to the tune of several thousand dollars? WTF?
A four-year-old might act like that. Or maybe the President of the United States. But the CEO of Steemit really should know better than to act so irresponsibly.
Speaking some truth to power here. This platform has such an amazing potential if the top 20-50 users shared the same ideals that the platform itself tries to espouse.
your spam is getting irritating.
haters gonna hate
More powerful people gonna flag
LOL. That's cute. Don't twist your arm patting yourself on the back.
What's cute is watching newbs show up with 30 days and 30 bucks and act like idiots. Fun to watch em learn or burn. Now which one are you smart enough for?
I have to say Thank You for writing this, and for the conversation that has been inspired. It's been an educational experience to say the least!
I wanted a more direct response to the delegation part, but we'll probably never get that. Doesn't hurt to keep asking though. Thanks for taking the time to read it. :)
What did you learn here that most old timers and regulars like you and I didn't already know?
well, I didn't realize that there was already a plan to make a competing social media platform, for one.
/facepalm, how could Dan NOT build the next version of this, when he's left on outspoken terms about how this experiment needs adaptation and change and it DOES!
I mean, it's unimaginable to me anyone at all ever, least of all Ned suddenly somehow sees this as a surprise? It's DAN! He makes social blockchains, thats what he does all day every day.
Because of this dan has now fully given up on steem... and he will be creating a competitor on EOS.
Don't really know how to feel about this, competition is good but... splitting up the community like that is going to suck.
I've come to believe that EOS will be a superior platform to Steemit. Which is sad. I had such high hopes for Steemit. But it's certainly time for a change.
Agreed, but it is what it is and the problem will ultimately be resolved one way or another.
Made a short little post with dan's statement for those who did not read it yet, well i am mostly sad that people will again be left behind, but that is the nature of crypto i guess.
Bravo, @claybon! However, I am disappointed with Ned's response. He focused only on Dan and that obsession is visible everywhere. As a user, I will prefer what is better. If what Dan is trying to build comes out to be better than Steemit, I will surely join (without leaving Steemit). Ned and the whole Steemit Inc. will be responsible if this beautiful platform gets ruined by abuse and unfairness.
Amen
Some of it wasn't really a question and more of a cautionary exclamation. He read it, he heard my opinion and responded why he was upvoting the comment and that the vote would be pulled. He doesn't owe me an answer on my opinions, hopefully he'll take my advice on being more transparent going forward.
I find your letter Clay not only to be respectful but to be too respectful. Not that this is a bad thing, mind you. I hope Ned responds to you, I sincerely doubt it, But I would like to be wrong.
I don't know him personally and to base my opinion of him on the assumptions that I'm drawing from the actions I am aware of just isn't my style. I'd love to get an actual response and hopefully improve the platform and gain increase the value for all of us in the process, but we'll just have to see what happens.
You've made some valid points, I hope he (and others) get to read it.
I also share your 'humble opinion'
If I spent the rest of my life, raking in a few bucks here and there on Steemit in my spare time, I would be happy with that, because I'm making a small payout for doing things where the money isn't relevant to me. Writing, music, and art are all passions of mine that I've been participating in my whole life with virtually no pay. So this is an added bonus, and incites a sense of accomplishment for me. This being said, I've been reading some people's concerns, especially with the growing community, and how the platform will respond to this. It's not good to say the least. I would personally, really love to make two bucks a post for the rest of my life. I'm afraid I'll drown with the minnows if these issues aren't addressed. Thank you for being brave and acting as a voice for us. We depend on people like you. Hopefully your voice will not only be heard, but also considered. Thanks for this. @futuremind
Spreading out the distribution of tokens on the platform actually increases the value from my perspective. The more people making, retaining, and using the tokens, ultimately the more valuable they become. The U.S. dollar didn't get to be a "global reserve currency" by people not using it. Personally I think the U.S. dollar is worthless, but the economic principals remain. Fungibility and use require decentralization of the currency and that only happens if we keep building up the platform so that it's something worth using. I hope you are finding a nice digital home here, and just to put things in perspective, I made pennies and the occasional dollar here and there for months when I first started, but a year later all of that STEEM has gone up 40-50x in value. I have some lofty hopes for the platform, but I think they are realistic. :)
I really like your perspective on this. What I personally do, is take the 50/50 default payout, and refuse to touch my steem power, allowing for half the payout to stay in the platform. I do believe in the future of Steem enough to leave it there. It would be senseless and foolish to draw it out anyway when you understand what steem power actually is, and how it affects not only the functionality of your account, but also the potential ability for you to earn much more. That being said, I feel comfortable drawing my 50 percent SDB and diversifying my hodl. This also gives me the comfort of knowing that I have control and possession of half of my earnings here. If my logic seems flawed to anyone, I am very open to opinion and suggestion. I'm still learning as I go. I do believe the fundamentals are crucial to success with Steemit. Thank you for taking the time to comment.
These are my thoughts exactly
It's nice to know I'm not alone!
Yes!!! Perfectly said.
Thank you!
I think Ned was right in his comment honestly. And he seldomly uses his delegations at all. He upvoted based on his belief, which as a part of steemit he certainly should do occasionally. @ned @clayboyn you guys are awesome in your own ways. I really hope this helps open up more discussion and enlightenment in regards to sp delegation.
I honestly can't say anything about EOS other than @dan clearly knows how to build a blockchain. Whether or not @ned is correct in sentiment, I am more concerned with the use of that much stake weight to pay himself more on three words than most of the trending page combined. The community shouldn't be put in a position to have to flag the CEO of the company in the first place in my opinion, but it is what it is and we're now in this situation.
I see what you’re saying. Maybe there’s more too it behind the scenes that makes all this make sense I guess.. it’s tough to understand why the dev geniuses of today do what they do.
Ballsy but I respect it. You made some valid points here and I for one know you're definitely one of the best ambassadors for steemit on here and discord so you've gained my trust as a voice that needs to be heard...Plus you freely give out hugs and they make me feel nice
Hopefully he reads what I have to say and realizes that it comes from a place of actually caring about this platform. I'd give Ned a hug too. :)
Thank you for this carefully and tactful message to our CEO as well all who hold Steemit dear.
It is truly disheartening to see this kind of of self serving actions from the leader of the band. Really takes the wind out of all the small town folks who are really just trying to get pennies a post turn into a dollar or two.
When this magnitude of rewards are removed every time he posts, then how can those who read his work not question his motives in ANY project or statement made.
The true nature of all are shown and made visible to all eventually and with the blockchain fully undeniable.
Hoping your message is taken in the proper context it was written, to build a quality and diverse Steemit, not just enrich a few whales.
Thanks,
Craig
Thats quite a payout for a 3 word comment
Right on clay! It sucks to see when someone with so much influence does that. Glad to see his comment here as well.
had no idea this has been happening
thank you for bringing awareness of the CEO's of stemit's action into
He responded above and based on the actions that followed I'll take what he said at face value. Time will tell how this all plays out, but it's good to spread awareness and thanks for reading!
I am still new to this platform but I somehow feel the same way.
Keep on the good work !One of the most constructive critics I have ever read @clayboyn !
At least the users are capable of downvoting and returning at least some of the rewards back to the pool.
Agreed, although putting people in the position of wanting to flag the CEO is kind of reckless from my perspective.
Oh yeah, of course.
But posts like yours and a plethora of user downvotes are likely to put him in place. :^)
kidgrownups.This post is fucking epic. @clayboyn, the quintessential gentleman sends a bit of respectful constructive criticism and advice to, after my interactions with this I have determined to be the quintessential teenager. The conversation continues well past the payout date. Get a clue kid (@ned). We are trying to help you, not attack you. When you figure that out, come and talk with the
I guess what Dan will come up with will just be the first of many real competitors, and Steemit will have to work hard to stay at the top, I do believe we can do it.As far as I can see there will be a Steemit competitor created by @dan, this is not bad, hell in fact I think I will join whatever he creates to see how it works. Steemit will always be my first choice of course because I have seen a lot of good come out of this platform, I myself have been benefited with a few payouts that have allowed me to get out of some financial problems and I do expect that the SMT's will make things even better. So all I have for Steem is good vibes, of course there are kinks that have to be worked out but these can be fixed and any growing organization like Steem is bound to see them happen.
You absolutely right with this points ,,
I'm very close to leaving Steemit, and waiting for the social media platform that will be developed upon EOS-- I'm certain it will be far superior. There are too many imperfections in the Steemit platform (a so-called CEO? really????). Lots of great people on Steemit, and lots of garbage. Guess I'll vote by selling my STEEM for EOS. Not that I had too many followers, and I'll never be a whale, but I think I'm fairly certain what the next step (for me) will be. Looking forward to Dan Larimer's next (and greatest) creation, EOS!
Thanks for opening our eyes to what is going on. It’s sad, but we all thought that Steemit was different - that we finally had control of our own finances without some boss breathing down our necks. Sadly, Steemit is no different from any big business out there where the owners care little for their employees. Although we are not employees, we are the ones who ae making his business successful - successful enough for him to be able to create another business, and that’s great! But am I understanding correctly that he is creating something to be in direct opposition to Steemit ? That’s not so great! 😥
Time will tell, but EOS is a platform for DAPPS and if it turns into competition it turns into competition.
Competition is Ok in business, but will it take momentum away from Steemit, I wonder?
I once thought that here is very good to work but justice does not exist...
Hi @clayboyn, @haejin scam: when will it be solved? We all want to earn $500 for post like @haejin.
While I'm not a fan of any one person taking a lion share of the reward pool, calling that a scam is kind of reckless. The way blockchains and stake weight work mean that the people with the most investment in the platform get to decide where the rewards are distributed. @haejin is being upvoted by one of the largest stake holders and regardless of my personal opinion as to the share of the reward pool he is getting, saying it's a scam is incorrect. I have no way to solve that issue as some people will always have more money than others and the best advice I could give you is to not focus on that. My main goal with this specific post is to bring up my concerns with how the CEO of Steemit Inc. is representing and using the platform. There is an official @steemit account that was given a portion of the blockchain's resources to fund development and using the stake weight of that account for personal profit is a question of integrity as that is not what the funds were put into that account for. Greed is an issue related to scarcity mindset and something that I can't solve, but we can bring up these issues and point out our concerns and hope that people listen.
Thank you for your reply, have a nice Sunday @clayboyn.
Interesting, the mythical leader of the Luddites was named "Captain Ned".
Very very important post it is, Thank u So much for share this needy discussion @clayboyn
And also get a comment.Hey @clayboyn this post has been upvoted by me @azizurrahman
The current time investment lose ..Because steem rate low..
sharing rewards with voters? So, you'd like for witnesses to buy votes and completely corrupt the system, because you just wish somebody would give you a free ride? Seriously? Wow.
Sincerely,
a steem witness.
One who did the work to get here from there and earned it.
let me know though, when youve feed hundreds of orphans, fed hundreds of homeless people, equipped hundreds of kids with school supplies in improvrished nations, provided thousands of agricultural seeds to hurricane destroyed populations and done work for humanitarian aid in seven countries, with a 5 country steemian meetup world tour planned for 3 weeks from now, built software for the platform, built two steem 24/7 streeming tv stations, and lead over 5000 new members onto the platform, via senior community leadership and onboarding roles. yeah, get the fuck out with your "installed an app" - you have NO idea what you are talking about.
Are you literally on drugs?
You are literally suggesting buying votes. Literally the most corrupt possible political concept on the planet, if you don't understand that, you might need a basic class in elections?
hehe, yer cute, have fun!