Dear friend,
Thank you for writing this thoughtful post that I am not bothered to read. Instead, I will be voting with dust power and try to leave a generalized comment underneath. Hopefully I can trick you and the rest of the users into believing that my engagement is genuine. Furthermore, I am hoping that my investment on people's idiocy will earn me some followers and even upvotes.
Your post is very good, wow, so great.
I guarantee you that I will try my best to make as much revenue from Steemit as I can with the least possible effort. I won't bother with reading, writing or even genuinely engaging. I am an online drifter that lurks in the money making corners of the internet and not someone that will offer valuable engagement.
Did I tell you how awesome your post is and how great of an author you are? Very good my friend.
Other users will hopefully follow my example. All of us, together, will promote a culture of superficial relationships and quick profits until this leechy tactic is no longer sustainable. Then we will all bail out and move onto the next big thing. Great right?
Like locusts stripping the life of everything around us until we perish under our gluttony.
Don't worry, I will always be kind and polite. If you happen to confront me about my ways, I will avoid engaging with you in hope not many people will pay attention to the way you have exposed me. In a couple of days, I will be able to resume my scammy ways with minimal damage.
No harm. Live and let live. Right?
In closing, I would like to remind you not to take this comment personally. It is business as usual even If I pretend that I am someone who is interested in your ideas. Steemit for me is just a facade of illusory interaction and I am preying on those who have little experience about these kinds of schemes.
You are a great author. Your posts always fascinated me. Please like me back
Yours,
The Average Steemit Commenter
When money is involved, madness follows.
"Amazing Post!" to you all once again. :D
You see? At least you tried. Even barely
This comment was tweeted on my Twitter profile. Also, this will appear soon on a new video show called Planet Steem. Stay tuned.
Man fuck this post you hurt my feelings :(
Hilarious and true, the best part is that the first two comments on this post are literally what you're making fun of!
I was actually waiting for those. It proves my point. They don't even read. It is almost like an instinctual reaction
C'mon man you dont recognise your own joke?
I got yours. check the first ones though
Such meta, wow!
Sometimes I wonder if it's a bot, but I think that might require too much effort.
yeah, they are too lazy for that. I think they follow people with certain reputation from the steemwhales page.
Greed Is Good But Gratitude Is Better! Wait for me to get through this language barrier! Engage!
Another day of pretending I care,
thoughts of a commenter going his way.
Ps. You're a great author!
You see? You added bold, italics and seem to have read my shit. Kudos.
It goes together with something I heard yesterday - ''God is in the details.''
Even in the age of the internet we can interact with each other in many different ways.
Not that I'm religious or something but there is a hidden power behind every word we use.
Stay awake and aware, my friends!
Imagination is the key within.
Now let's see how many useless comments show up in this post :)
I count 5 so far.
Does that include my comment? :)
how can you be sure with the amount of sarcasm ? :3
I’ve had a few times where they were not to “polite” lol. After they told me they were not “spam” because “they only did it once on that blog.” It is so true though even when you get them to stop a few days later they are at it again.
I’ve seen a few people out there set up some bait blogs out there just to nuke the daylights out of the spammers when they show up. It’s really hilarious to watch.
Why people insist on leaving comments like it’s the comment section of YouTube or Twitter and therefore they must limit how much they type is beyond me!!! The really long ones I’ve noticed get a couple of upvotes and sooner or later they start taking that rep hit and then act like they did nothing wrong.
I had a really productive chat once with a guy trying to defend them. Who I assumed did similar things. Some of these people pay an hourly rate to sit in an internet café in their country and spam all day hoping to make a profit. They live in countries where the cost of living and rental cost for pc and internet are low enough if they make a couple bucks off upvotes they are set for that day or even a week depending how much. So, at least some of these people can be starved out once they lose too much money they are off to whatever thing in life they find to make a quick buck.
Another thing I have noticed is it’s a culture thing. Some of these people live in countries where you shout all day in a marketplace or go door to door telling everyone that you can about what you are selling. So they think by spamming their blogs everywhere (because that’s how they do it in their country) that we will be “welcoming” of their actions. At least some of these people can be reason with. It's still very rare and most time not worth the time to even reason with them.
Part of the issue also lies in these people spamming hoping to get an upvote from random bots that reward certain types of behavior on steemit. I’ve wasted far too much time trying to convince these people it really can be worth spending the time making a decent to a good comment.
This is unfortunately a difficult truth... last site I saw destroyed by this sort of behavior... 95% of the "action" came from four particular locations that are now starting to show up here on Steemit, in some force. Cost of living isn't necessarily as much of an indicator as culture. Just look at the Nigerian contingent on Steemit... engaging, produce lots of quality content-- use the platform to make authentic differences in their lives. Same with much of the Venezuelan community. Certain other places, no so much... almost like cheating and "half assed" is a more culturally acceptable value.
Hahaha you made me laugh and angry at the same time! Same as I sometimes feel when reading those shitty comments of annoying leeches. Sometimes i call people out for doing so, but they don't (seem to) care. We should have a name and shame list or something...
They are untouchables. Much like pro door to door sales people. You can shoot their hand off and they will still keep a smile painted on their face. Amazing
Untouchable. And swarm-of-locust-like.
My favorite is:
"Follow you, follow me?"
I dont bother with these people. Their growth on the platform will tell them how they are wasting their time :D
As this poster mentioned when he/she quoted Genesis ... https://steemit.com/marketing/@thehutchreport/follow-you-follow-me-a-classic-song-by-genesis-not-a-marketing-strategy
It's like a zombie apocalypse, but it happens online. A behaviour gets so repetitive it becomes scary.
Most of them are not even humans :)
and rest are copypastas.
oh copy pasta bolognese ! I have love and hate relationship to that one and I laughed all they way reading the post as well as the comment. The amount of satire, is just magnificent !
Believe me, I know how you feel. But there are hundreds of them so I am torn about wasting my voting power by flagging them. But occasionally I do!
I do, as well... and it typically just takes a 2-3% flag to make them disappear.
Right, 1% can make them disappear. But it does not stop them from their spamming unless one downvotes with enough voting power to affect their reputations and get their attention.
Yes, it is much like trying to kill mosquitoes in a hot Mediterranean night. You can get a couple but they will keep coming for more blood.
haha. Yeah it really is a problem on steemit, post engagement is low, and the engagement you do get is fake.
@kyriacos what you are writing here can be a reality for several people who comment just looking to get some profit. I think those people doing that are just loosing their time, and their efforts will not get them anywhere. It will not compensate them at the end, and they are loosing the possibility to learn a lot from people that have the same likes or interests in cryptocurrency, technology, etc. Thanks for sharing this. I just Upvoted. @gold84
What exactly is the point in that bit? That's just as bad as the empty comments imo. You're still just fishing for votes.
I' ve been on Steemit for quite some time and I can tell you that the majority of comments are much like that. Furthermore these people don't even stick around and rather fill up the blockchain with inactive accounts.
I think I detect a slight touch of cynicism and sarcasm in that post. Greed is good according to Gordon Gecko. It certainly keeps people behaving in interesting ways. Long live @berniesanders.
Don't get me wrong. Greed is awesome. I totally agree. It makes the world go round.
This is nothing about greed. This is plain stupidity, like eating your own legs because you are hungry.
Bahahahaha!
lol
Your post is very good, wow, so great.
thenk-ou-camagain
To be honest, I read your articles even when I was not registered in the Steemit. Thank you.
LMAO
I FOLLOWED YOU FOLLOW ME BACK
:'D
I must admit you made this kind of "comments" rather funny.
:)
UPVOTED, FOLLOWED, just send me as little as 1000.000.0000 SDB and I will resteem your post! 😉 I have already 7 followers! 😜
I am a photographer and I love when I share just the photos and megadata when they tell me I am a great author. And it is like dude I did not even write anything. Would seem less spammy if they said I was a good photographer. LOL this post had me laughing.
I remember a post like that, and I thought it was a very funny call-out.
I did call out that spamming comment lol
You see these people on every post you make, often with bad English or an already copy pasted text commenting on every single post they can find. Annoying but i guess there's no way to get rid of them.
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Buen post @kyriacos, muy interesante amigo.
Saludos desde Ecuador :)
FML
i was counting xD
Heh, what is meta?
precisely
Great writing and intentions, but maybe it's a little too harsh, @kyriacos? The society is under blockchain re-construction. (At least I hope it is :)
New blueprint is highly technical and difficult to read. As Jesus said sometimes they simply don't know.
Nah, this cancer is everywhere that money happens to be a central point.
I dislike that we can use the term -- average -- it is quite a disheartening read to make it through. Reality of the situation is this is proof that our society produces worker bees.
What can we do to help our fellow Steemians be more than a hive-mind?
I think more people should put some effort into curtailing their own comment sections. I know this is something that is often forgotten about. Even when a spammer is not flagged if his comment is somewhere near the bottom and to never be seen again then they might have to rethink things.
Granted some of them also just leave a comment on top comment to try and get some attention that way. I do tend to agree with kyriacos and only way is flagging them. If they are bot then they might not notice the rep drop for quite some time and keep spamming away so that just helps others notice. Other times it draws them out as they get angry over the flag and you might get a conversation with them.
Part of it is a culture thing depending on what country they live in that might be how they act there to sell a product or service. Another could be a language barrier. They just don’t speak enough English and they live in a country where $1 is all they need and someone told them about this “wonderful moneymaking opportunity” so they think they will get rich. When the site is sold to others in a way as a place to make money just by writing people just assume they can get rich and therefore spam.
I wish educating them was the way to go. I’ve written a blog or two on the subject matter myself in the past trying to show how to go about leaving comments and the benefits of leaving good thoughtful ones. I even spent some time leaving thoughtful comments to their spam or even ones poking fun at the comment. Whatever I could to try and get the person to reply back so I could have a civil conversation with them. Never had any long-lasting results as a day or two later they just go back to spamming.
I’ve seen a few well know people in the community try and address this issues without going on massive downvoting sessions to deal with it. They never seem to work. One even went as far as making a contest and rewards if you took the time to convince a spammer to stop and they went at least a week without doing so. Didn’t work out so well.
Actively curating our own comment sections. Take the damn time! Show-- by example-- how a good and engaging comment is rewarded and results in actual dialogue... give a small upvote to someone who's obviously trying but not good at English. Give a tiny upvote to someone who at least show they READ the post. FLAG the stuff you can readily identify as spam... it orders the comments meaningfully.
And curate good comments elsewhere! If someone wrote a stellar comment on someone else's post, give 'em a nudge; dropping a few 10-20% upvotes on comments isn't going to kill your voting power.
Our words matter. And downvoting does need to be used for appropriate spam.
But some folks are just not good with words or communicating. I take the time to notice if they are saying "good post" versus "look at me".
flag them
I take it on a case by case basis. Some folks are just not great with words. And it is easy to see which ones are the money grubers.
There is enough insanity. Do we have to be hostile at the LindaDee Level?
Like seriously?
I'm actually looking forward to the new steemit api token system that is coming up, (next month?) I'm hoping it helps deal with the fake comments a bit better by allowing the flag option on it.
The way I figure it, if we have a wordpress plugin that allows us to use steemit as a comment system as well as a cblog platform OUTSIDE of steemit.com we are likely to be able to use blacklist plugins, spam blockers etc before the api even loads.
Those that do get past it, will end up getting flagged by our real users and the those that are hosting the plugins on their own sites.
what's left should be a real community.
:)
I love the salt factor here. I've been salty about a lot of the interactions on Steemit, and while I like the CONCEPT of Steemit, any time you introduce MONEY you invite corruption and scumbags and bots who take advantage of loopholes and ways to game the system, leaving us 'honest' folks wondering if we're getting screwed for staying on the straight and narrow. For that reason, Facebook and Reddit (and other 'free' social media sites) are a lot closer to an honest and normal set of human interactions than is Steemit.
And now we have this whole new Media Token thing, where we can corrupt and infect other 'natural community' sites with this artificial money concept? I am reluctant to embrace that.
Your post is very good, wow, so great...........You are a great author. Your posts always fascinated me. Please like me back
do you dislike if anyone praises you .... ???
For some reason, everything about this post makes me think of lyrics in the song dirty laundry by don henley.
"We can dance and sing
When it's said and done we haven't told you a thing
We all know that Kraft is king
Give us dirty laundry
You don't really need to find out what's going on
You don't really want to know just how far it's gone
Just leave well enough alone
Eat your dirty laundry"
And yeah, I get the "hey great post" comments that come in a minute or two after regularly. It's entertaining for sure lol
Wait just a minute. I read the whole thing. Even though I didn't understand what you were trying to say in this great post. Now I will follow you if you follow me! Haha!
Duh! 🐓🐓
You are so fucking right about that and I will take it one step further to another problem that I see rising from that kind of behavior.
I really LOVE to get constructive feedback from others and from all the content that I consumed until now I rarely see people giving honest constructive feedback to one each other. Posts about photography, writing, graphic design, steemit promotion, you name it. I actually NEVER saw someone in the comments saying something which I will consider as real feedback.
I get that, it's what you said, good words most of the time equal to upvotes, and upvotes equal to money but that should not be the only reason. Feedback makes the world go round, that's the way to become better in whatever we do and that's why I am really skeptical on how we could work things around that.
Whenever I see a window of opportunity I am trying to discuss this with the rest of the community but I still haven't heard opinions from others. I would love to read what @kyriacos and the rest of you think about that.
I guess you NEVER read any of my comments then.
I'm one of those people who just have to say what I think, rather than what I think people will want to hear. It gets me in trouble and sometimes pisses people off, but I must be true to myself because I dislike fake people.
Maybe "NEVER" was not the appropriate word to use. I will change it and say most of the cases.
Steemit is a relatively small community but it's big at the same time, so it's highly possible for me not to stumble upon your comments or the comments of people like you and me who say what they think.
No worries. I have the bad habit of using 'never' where 'rarely' would be more proper and I'm trying to stop myself from doing it, so when I see it, I notice. When I notice, I must say something.
There I go again! LOL
Anyway... I'm happy to meet another outspoken person. These people are the ones that will challenge me and make me THINK! Being smug with the knowledge (or perceived knowledge) that everyone agrees with you is a great feeling, but it actually stifles growth because you just coast along with your current mindset and have no reason to even consider any other possibility. When someone challenges your ideas, you actually need to contemplate the reasons for your belief and in order to defend them, you need to consider and understand what the other person is saying. This might lead to altering your belief or at least learning something new about the views of others. To me, this is what growth is all about.
I couldn't agree more. You state it so well that I will save it for future use!😎
Thanks! What an honour. I feel like a celebrity now. Someone actually wants to save my comments. This is the real pay-back from a social media platform. I feel like I actually contributed something useful. Thanks again.
I actually think those comments are bots. Probably one of steemit's biggest problems, spamming bots. But I don't really know how to control this issue without crippling genuine people's freedom to engage (like facebook, twitter, etc do it)
I think
An excellent posting
Entertaining funny post and so true! Thanks for the laugh!
Wow, great post! My favorite part was when you put letters together to form words. Did you know that I write posts very great, with much wow too? I voted for you so you now like owe me a vote (with more weight) too, right?
P.S. Seriously though, love your satire posts. My favorite was the one was with red is bad, so much red in chart (picture of bombs on chart). Don't remember what it was called though.
I have "a lot" of those comments on my posts as well. I am thinking about flagging them as they don't contribute to anything. I am still wondering if that is too harsh...
I'm going to admit that I'm a little guilty of this myself, although to be fair I do my best to read through the articles and comment related to the content. The problem I have is I am squeezing in posting and commenting on Steemit alongside a full time job and extra time family life. I am doing my best to contribute good and meaningful posts while following and commenting on accounts with similar interests.
It was one of the first things I noticed when signing up for Steemit and it was a real turn off.
I saw a post today of someone's painting. The reply to this artwork was about how well it was written?
Don't want to be that guy.
I wish we had those emoticons on Steemit. My favorite would be the vomiting one from Skype. It absolutely amazes me that people can come up with such crap comments. I have read some comments that are totally unrelated to the post and the language is terrible. I wish they would take away the rewards for comments and there were some way to regulate the content. We will just have to adapt won't we??
Thankfully, there are two things that the sincere have over scammers:
One- we don't try and cash in on the bubbles, we prefer to brew the beer (so we tend to make wiser choices) which means we end up knowing the brewery business better.
Two: we build stronger communities because we learn who to trust the long hard way (which is the only way that works).
Valid points, sharp wit, useful insight - good post. Steemit is still small enough that all we need to do is focus on finding the goodstuff and ignoring the rest, and trusting the blockchain to do what it is designed to do.
In essence - this is the way to deal with abuse of the system: make good content about the problem, as you have elegantly demonstrated.
I hope that this comment section and response to your observations gives you a little hope :)
You're right. And thanks for writing about this problem. But I think that the problem does not dare, people will write a "good post" or "wonderful post", or even ask to vote for them. It is very insulting when I write a post, I try to write more interesting, work on photos, and people do not even bother to read it. My husband was experimenting with a video post. The video lasted 2-3 minutes. But already in the first seconds he wrote a comment "good post." That's it.
And of course, you're the asshole when spam darkens your doorstep... People just look at Steemit like a quick buck. "I was just being nice and telling you something you already knew... Why are being mean? Why won't you follow me back?"
I just offer them a mute for a mute. Oddly enough they never me up on the offer.
Here's a real reply, stop being a crybaby. :)
ROFL> But sadly how true. We get dozens of these through the course of one. Don't their copy and paste finger wear out with the exertion? And they have the audacity to call me sir!
Did I tell you how awesome your post is and how great of an author you are? Very good my friend.
Have I told you lately, that I love you?
Have I told you, there's no one else above you?
You take away all my sadness, you fill my heart with gladness.
You ease my troubles that's what you do.🕳
I was just going to leave your quote as a hardy-har, but it reminded me of a song. As much as I hate them, I think it gives us normies a common enemy, making each and every good comment elevated by simply not being the worst.
Hilarious lmao thank you for sharing @mannyfig1956