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RE: Ecency waves Aug 19

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The difference?

When I post even in a small Facebook group, I receive meaningful comments. Something related to what I wrote. People care.

When I post to Hive, sometimes I receive "nice photos". Often nothing at all. People mostly do not care.

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The difference between friends on FB and Hive is that the people on FB are mostly people we know personally and that make a lot difference.

People need to get their real friends onto Hive. That's how it will grow.

That is not as easy as it sounds.
I have managed to bring 4 people here, but I have created their accounts for them.
Often the sign-up process doesn't work or require some verification method that they don't have or isn't working.

I've created accounts for some friends and others managed to do it themselves with no help from me. Unfortunately they are not using it much now. We need compelling content.

The most captivating is videos. I think leoshorts can increase the user base, but I fear that the UI might keep people away from it in the long run

It will vary, but having different types of content helps. A lot of people never go to InLeo, so I see that as niche. Same with Waves.

Totally agree! The features from both places should be Hive-wide though 😃

yes.. exactly.. the situation is..

the main motive of people to earn.. rather than appreciation..

I post in a small Facebook group (1200 members). I personally know only a very few of them.

You're right on many aspects, buddy. However, I don't think Hive and FB is a good comparison. Reddit would be a more equal comparison since Hive basically works like Reddit.
We just need the proper communities and it will flourish (also easier onboarding).

If you have ideas for communities or even how a Hive website (interface) should work, write about it. And use tag #hivexpand

This could give ideas for growth and connect the right people. Personally I would do something like that, and even check the tag every now and then.

Hive (communities) and Facebook groups are a proper comparison. The latter shows how a properly working social network is functioning. The main difference is that there are real content consumers in Facebook groups, even in very small Facebook groups.

Honestly the monetary aspect is ruining the Hive blockchain. Most people are so focused on it that they literally do not even care about the content.

I do see what you’re saying here, and I tend to agree that the monetary aspect has its way of creating disproportionate power distribution as well as many people focusing on the wrong aspects.

I think it’s up to us as individuals to prioritize creating quality content and genuine engagement over doing whatever they think will yield results.

Something I’ve noticed, and my good friend @theringmaster has definitely grasped, is that engagement begets engagement. The more you sincerely view and comment on other people’s work, the more people will come and see what you’re up to. It’s not always perfect and we don’t catch everything, but I’ve had a long history of continued engagement with some really cool creators like @honeydue, @galenkp, @cmplxty, @dandays, @wannabescrapper, @oldsoulnewb, and so many more who I genuinely think of as my on-chain friends. We don’t comment on everything produced by one another, but we stay in touch and comment on the things that make us laugh, or think, or inspire us, or stir up a memory.

…I think a paradigm shift is needed, but it will only occur on the level of individuals like you and me. We have to choose to use the Blockchain differently if we want the Blockchain to be different, and I feel like this is something all the big time users have already taken to heart. If you produce quality content for yourself, the rest will follow…but conversely, if you’re producing content with the expectation of earning a paycheck, you’ll likely mis the mark and produce something no one really wants. Hive is a place for creating from the heart, for the heart.

Also, just for the record, I do have a passionate hatred of FB, so we may just be cut from different cloth. Stay well my friend, I hope your luck turns around.

nailed it brother you're absolutely right on this one

Thanks brother, I appreciate your work, your reply, and your continued effort towards making the blockchain an awesome social environment!

wow man, thanks so much man, I feel so motivated by these words

I see where you're going, but since the FB is working properly, and as we would expect a social media to be like, comparing the two can give a skew result.
I see why you want to compare them, but sadly, Hive is not there. Might never be, due to the police forces on here, but who knows.

Again, if you have ideas just post about them. It can be anything from community to how sign up should work etc etc

Yeah, we've been over this. The Hive community is tiny and everyone wants to be a creator. Most people don't have their actual friends on it. We need to migrate them from FB if we want more engagement. I find FB really frustrating to use these days. Too much crap in my feed.

I use FB so little that I can't remember my password & I don't care enough to get a new one xD
As long as I am logged in on Messenger then everything is good.

I just use Messenger to keep in touch with friends. There's a couple of groups I use, but most people I know don't post much.

I agree.

Same :D

Same for me. No reason to use FB.

The Facebook group in which I post is also tiny (1200 members). Personally I do not know most of them. Only a very few of them. Yet they actually care about the content. On the Hive blockchain "everyone wants to be creator".

This alone would not necessarily be a problem. But the fact that almost no one actually cares about the content is. I write more than 200 words, and then all I receive is "nice photos".

The lack of content consumers on the Hive blockchain is honestly much more frustrating than anything on the Facebook.

I see it as an issue of scale. A big FB group will have a common interest. Hive is more diverse. A lot of people are just here for the money, but I see plenty who enjoy engaging. My experience may be different to yours and we should not assume that what we see is typical.

You may say the rewards for likes is what ruins Hive but I don't agree, rewards prevents sh*t content on Hive, and a minimum effort on content in most cases, which is why I deleted Facebook from my devices a long time ago, because I was tired of spending time laughing at nonsense memes.

If there's too low engagement is mainly because Hive is a very hard platform to understand and to get in. Creating an account is confusing, posting is confusing and takes time, understanding voting energies, HP, RC, HBD and HIVE currencies is super confusing. The most of the Hive DApps are not designed for common people, are designed for crypto-fans, and that's the main fault because social apps cannot depend in a so specific niche.

If we want Hive to grow and replace Facebook, we must make it a lot easier for everyone to enter and post here, otherwise this will keep the same.