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RE: @berniesanders just flagged my post! Is there anything I can do?

in #abuse8 years ago (edited)

Cry me a river. I can flag whatever I please including your conspiracy theory bullshit. Get over it.

FYI - there was nothing random about it.

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Here is what I see though... When you look into these things no one will be brought to justice though official means. Anyone with the official power to investigate and convict are under pressure and routinely get called names and are putting their carriers and freedom on the line. This is a concern for the public because the masses are absorbed the risk. This is also idea for many smaller reporter as that distributes the risk.

Don't you see value in decentralization via the block-chain? Well, this is decentralization via Open Source investigations.

I'm thinking that through necessity, Open Source investigations should gain some part of the public's attention and routinely the public will run these investigations. This is no different form JFK's assassination or the ongoing investigations into 911. More often than not Official Stores don't hold up. We simply can not trust them. These people we are investigating are a part of the official story creating system. They intentionally use psychology to deceive the public which includes sophisticated techniques like: name calling! and dis-information. The also recruited the public to help them, they are few and far in between and rely on tricking us to do their dirty work for them.

Sure this is scary or does not sit well with us, this is by design. And obviously every one benefits from better fact checking. But the show must go on so we can learn about and create a demand for these solutions.

I challenge you to see our Open Source Investigators as people that are as noble as our honest public servants. Investigators will be respected and encouraged to do these investigations but always challenged to do better. Obviously not everyone will participate. But in general I believe this is more health position for our population to put themselves in. This is not a guess, this is a clear course of action when you understand our politics and political systems behind governments.

And everyone who does not want to investigate or have any part of this? I propose that It is in their best interests to wake up and understand what is really going. We need a population that can't be controlled and manipulated by fear and doubt so easily. There is a time and a place for everything. Drop in learn and test yourself. Get comfortable learning about things early in the investigative phase. Think for yourselfs, learn to always questions one's knowledge and beliefs. Become comfortable learning about things that may or may not be true. Become decentralized. This is how we innovate.

I challenge you to see our Open Source Investigators as people that are as noble as our honest public servants.

Well, that goes both ways. Hopefully, they can live up to that characterization.

I have not followed the pizzagate stuff very closely, but the incidental contact i have had with a few of them in threads here leads me to believe that, at least to some extent, some of them have earned the disdain some people feel towards this topic.

I'm a big fan of Trial by jury. And I am not referring to those exercising their freedom of speech (apparently you have to specify this these days).

I'm so tired of even hearing about this pizza gate bullshit ! And if there's a tag for it why wasn't it listed there !? It's also constantly showing up in my feed ! Enough is enough already ! I wish people would stop rehashing and saying the same stuff over and over again ! It's a stupid pizza gate broken record conspiracy theory B.S. ! End of Rant ! Thank you very much ! Steem On !🍕🍕🍕

That was the very first tag. I was definitely not trying rehash or say the same thats already been said. I don't like that either. I am always trying to add value to this platform. I'm not saying that I always do but that is definitely my goal. Thanks for sharing your opinion though. steem on.

Your opinion was spot on ! I'm just tired allready about hearing of it ! It's on the news the past month . And enough is enough all ready . It's not so much directed at you. As at the whole pizza gate thing in general ! That's all I don't even want to talk about it right now so that's all I want to say ! Merry Christmas ! And all the best in the New Year ! Still following ! Stem on ! 👍♨🎄

Merry Christmas

Obviously you can. You are also entitled to your opinion. Did you read the email from wikileaks. Or do you consider wikileaks just conspiracy theory too? I doubt you have done sufficient research. Can you be specific?

I've done enough research to know it's exactly as I described it above.

You people need to stop taking shit so personally and if you're worried about only your earnings you're using the wrong platform.

How bout answering my question then. Did you even look at the email from wikileaks that was at the bottom of the post that Dan commented about. What is your opinion of wikileaks?

This is one of the issue I see with steem. Governments don't like information that reveal stuff about them and their agenda. As we've seen recently, the "fake news" categorization allows them to censor content that they don't like in a inconspicious way. As we know these entities have endless money and will definetely buy steem power in the future just for the purpose of flagging content.
Don't get me wrong some conspiracy theory have very little substance to back them up but there are many theories like chemtrail for instance that are very real stuff with tons of evidence and some people are trying their hardest to hide and discredit.
Try edit the chemtrail wikipedia your edit will be rectified within 2 min, so obviously when you see the comittement of some people to hide stuff it raises question..

Btw not saying berniesanders is related in any way to the government, just an observation about censorship.
Pizzagate is an important topic and should not be censored, conspiracy theory is the perfect word to discredit alternative information. 10 years ago a microchip implant was a "conspiracy theory" and now it is used by tens of thousands of people already, this narrative of "conspiracy theory" is a dangerous ones. If governments and bankers had a clean history these conspiracy theories would be ridiculous , unfortunately that's not the case.

when there is money invested in steemit on the line, and no proof pizzagate is real, only speculation, the whole pizzagate could be government phsyop to weed out alternative media and stomp therm into the ground, all they would need to do is release the fake info to wiki leaks and watch the chips fall, I gave the disgusting pizzagate attention for about 2 days, and realized if it was real then shit would have hit the fan very fast, but the only people who are in the shit are the ones who keep talking about it. Even Alex Jones is staying away from it, that says someting

If @berniesanders agrees with me... he should just get rid of the entire #pizzagate idea all together and flag out every post made

You can't just censor out a few random peeps... this entire hashtag doesn't need to exist if his opinion of pizzagate is that this is complete bs

pizzagate is being heavily censored on other social media platforms, when steemit users try to promote pizzagate steemit links on those platforms, it hurts the steemit domain

i don't get it... what is that email supposed to prove.

It doesnt prove anything definitively but the language is very interesting, especially when combined with everything else.

there is an entire hashtag about pizzagate... with endless amounts of similar evidence and material. Why are you down voting?

Maybe I'll take a look at all of those as well. This one was brought up in a chat which is why I saw this specific post.

I would appreciate if you would... maybe flag the entire pizzagate hashtag and kill this "conspiracy theory" completely

thank you very much mr. wang for steeping up to the microphone on this issue, I agree 100% with getting rid of pizzagate , that shit will hurt steemit when other platforms start heavily censoring it and steemit users try to promote it on those platforms with links to steemit

the investigation needs to continue for every reason you've stated. very real scandals like this have led to successful prosecutions before, also, many coverups.

defamation is not my goal. stopping a demonstrated culture of corruption is. not looking for a witch hunt. if you actually knew the facts you wouldn't stop any investigation. this is happening. who is doing it? i don't know. the numbers of children gone missing are real. look it up. if you don't want to be discredited, don't make accusations you can't back up with evidence.

the evidence says that the children gone missing is a real fact.
i don't personally know if pingpong or pizza has anything to do with it, but missing children, by the hundreds, sure do. look up Dennis Hastert, the former speaker of the house to see how many scandals this convicted pedophile is connected to, or just keep believing that pedophiles don't exist because you are tired of hearing about it. you could just mute the posts you don't like.

when there is money invested in steemit on the line, and no proof pizzagate is real, only speculation, the whole pizzagate could be government phsyop to weed out alternative media and stomp therm into the ground, all they would need to do is release the fake info to wiki leaks and watch the chips fall, I gave the disgusting pizzagate attention for about 2 days, and realized if it was real then shit would have hit the fan very fast, but the only people who are in the shit are the ones who keep talking about it. Even Alex Jones is staying away from it, that says someting

Pizzagate is nothing new, politicians,bankers,etc..have been accused of doing shaddy things like this for years if not decades ( look up Bohemian Grove)
There are plenty of clues indicating that pizzagate could be real, it's not like the story is baseless.
The very fact that the media give this story so much coverage and attention proves that it's not some fairy tails.
If a theory is able to persist and keep momentum it's because it make sense and could be possible. Look at the whole one world government/new world order thing, this theory as enormous legs because it makes a lot of sense, and every events happening in the world points towards this direction and put us closer to the agenda. When you connect the dots you can easily see how this is a real possibility.
AlexJones is an hysterical warmonger, some thing that he say are true but most of it is meant to create fear and sell his survival products. The fact that he doesn't cover the story mean shit.

pizzagate is being heavily censored on other social media platforms, when steemit users try to promote pizzagate steemit links on those platforms, it hurts the steemit domain

When users posts steemit pizzagate links on facebook it doesn't hurt the steemit domain, it allows people interested about pizzagate to get the info they need. You really need to get rid of that herd mentality.
The whole point of steemit is censorship resistance, when users broadcast their info to the world it is permanently recorded on the blockchain. Why pretend we censor stuff when we don't? Keep it real

Honestly the way I see it.. if we can't say anything about it...

Get Rid Of It

actually, i didn't. this was to your reply to snowflake, and there were no more replies possible on that comment thread.

I havent done a ton of research, but my general feeling is that the whole thing is bunk.
However, what you propose is a very very very slippery slope. There are a lot of major news events (watergate, monica lewinski, iran contra) that were completely unsubstantiated, right up until the point that they weren't.

Killing off an entire topic just because one whale doesn't think there's anything behind it sets a bad precedent.

I can't tell if you're being serious or not. I do not go looking for posts to flag, complete waste of voting power when it could go to better projects like @curie.

I'm being serious.. this "conspiracy theory" has too many holes and exaggerations. Why not just kill the entire hashtag because let's be honest.. as much as we want to believe this bs is really happening and point fingers at the people we want to be responsible for the ugly accusations... There's absolutely no good proof to keep this theory alive. So let's kill this hashtag

This conspiracy theory represents steemit.. this theory was for a good month.. the face of steemit

Me too, I cant stand to see all that pizzagate stuff, but I personally don't want to get into any war with conspiracy theorist, they can be very harsh. Somebody should to do something about it tho, just not me

the evidence for this repeated pattern is beyond overwhelming. there are people connected to this scandal who have already been convicted in a court of law of pedophilia. you may want to do a little research before you go defending people who have been convicted of abusing children. this is not my opinion. the court records prove that some of the people involved are criminals. look up Dennis Hastert, former speaker of the house of the United States. he is a convicted pedophile. this was proven in a court. he is connected to many of these scandals over the years. please, know what you are talking about before you call something fake. please, i implore you, i entreat you, help us stop this, or at least don't obstruct the truth coming out. i have been tracking these scandals for at least 25 years, this is real. i have seen many convictions. i do not want false accusations, but the only way to find the guilty is to be open with the investigations. i don't expect sanders to be reasonable, but i have previously thought that you were. for the innocent, i want there to be no doubt. for the guilty, i want them to stop harming others.

, but the only way to find the guilty is to be open with the investigations.

So the only way to find the witches is with a witch hunt? Though, to be 100% fair, i do recall that hastert pled to something finance related that had some sort of seedy overtones recently.

check out the witch hunt strawman. it was only a matter of time before the strawmen were deployed.

haha. we'd lose so many users. It was used in marketing steemit. I dont write about it, i read some post. But there's lots on steemit, tons.

I brought up the post in the chat because I found it humorous that our infallible CTO is supporting this nonsense. Mainly it was his comment...

... now I lean toward believing there is something to it

I found this to be appalling. Nobody is going to invest in Steem if those in charge are supporting these bullsh!t conspiracy theories.

Let's put pizzagate behind us PLEASE!

So your opinion must be infallable then? How are you so sure? I kinda felt the same way for a while until I saw Megan Kelly's interview and decided to do some digging. Why don't you come over to steemspeak.com and talk to us about it. MrWang is there so you won't be the only one on your side for sure.

@richardcrill I wouldn't stress about it. Just keeping steeming

I won't. I was a bit booty hurt. but I'm over it. Steem on man

My opinion infallible? Hah that's laughable.
I absolutely can't buy into this though. And yes I looked at the links you posted, it is just that there is no real evidence.

I don't expect you to buy into it. And you are correct. There is not solid evidence. But there is a lot of evidence that when looked at as a whole is very interesting.

You got me to thinking though. I can see why @berniesanders would have gotten mad about my title if he looks at this the way you do. I probably made that title too strong.