Please see the same in French: Curation Circle Creed - une proposition pour aider les dรฉbutant ร augmenter leurs gains ! ( traduction de @freedomshift) - translated by @aminuki
I have been thinking about ways for newbies to be able to gain exposure and start earning the little $ that the starter SP (15 SP) gives.
As we know, and will be a part of the orientation process (details to follow) to the proposed Curation Cricle, it would take about three times that, 45 SP (or 3 upvotes of 15 SP) to get a penny ($0.01) and more than $0.02 worth of upvotes to pay out.
Even at that, what's paid out for $0.03 worth of upvotes is not much - a fraction of the total vote value.
| For the sake of not confusing the newbies, I won't get into too much details, yet ... |
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Thinking about it, an idea is born - What IF we create a Curation Circle, free to join at any time, for those who will abide by a common belief, a curaton circle's creed?
creed
krฤd
noun
a set of beliefs or aims that guide someone's actions.
Qualification:
Anyone who have 1. read the FAQ, 2. read the referenced posts below, 3. understood the following topics, and 4. agreed to abide by the generally accepted rules:
- reputation score
- SP
- upvoting
- resteeming
- SPAM (do not SPAM)
- plagiarism (no stealing)
How to Join:
- Use the tag: #ccc (which stand for "Curation Circle Creed") in your post (state this in your post)
Must Include a link to the latest updated version of the "Curation Circle Creed" in your post
How to use:
- you agree to the latest updated version of the "Curation Circle Creed"
- only one post per day / 24 hour period of original content (200+ words) can use this tag #ccc
- maintained at least 90% of SP before posting (or minimum effective vote power of 15 SP for below 90% vote)
- only upvote 10 qualified posts with #ccc tag (5 before and 5 after your post) at 100% / 15 SP vote value during the same time period
- report abuse(s) on the posts that you curate (5 before and 5 after) and on the latest updated version of the "Curation Circle Creed" - and not vote on it.
- greet at lease 2 newbies the same day and
- refer them to the latest updated version of the "Curation Circle Creed" and
- include their posts as comments on yours.
- no self-vote on the #ccc post
- no bot vote on the #ccc post
This might be controversial, but if a post is voted or flagged by @cheetah, @steemcleaner, @introbot, or @badcontent or similar bots, it is immediately disqualified.
| Again, The key is to vote at the full 15 SP at over 80% strength and vote only 10 times on qualified posts and as stated. |
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| For those who wish to participate but have more than 15 SP (effectively), upvote with the % to give a 15 SP vote as the newbies. |
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The Curation Circle Creed - Must include this in your post:
I will only post original contents (not counting graphics or external links) on steemit or busy only.
I will clearly and properly source references, text and other media, abiding by copy rights.
I will respect other people's opinion, nationality, religious belief, language, and culture.
I will abide by rules laid out in the FAQ and generally accepted by the community.
I will not self vote nor bot vote posts with #ccc (excluding @steembasicincome and @dustsweeper and bot votes not paid by blogger)
I will not use alternate accounts to hide self voting
I will only use this tag, #ccc, once per 24-hour period or agree to be disqualified.
Well, That's IT!
This will start things off and we will surely come across issues and will resolve it as a circle by feed backs here or on the latest weekly version post.
The first 10 valid posts, correctly following all rules and qualifications, will receive my full vote at 80% or higher.
References:
- What ALL Newbies Must Know about Upvotes, Resteeming, Commenting, and "dust votes" - @freedomshift
- rant about curation initiatives - @felixxx
- My 2 ยข (two cents) - $0.02 is not Gonna Pay OR Will It? - @freedomshift
- Your 2 Cent Vote is Worthless, The Real Deal on Dust Votes - @thedarkhorse
- Introducing Dustsweeper. A new service to turn Dust into Profit - @dustsweeper
- Why are you picking on me? Because you are a lazy thief! - @bjgeese
These are good ideas. I like them. After I am settled into my routines, I definitely would support a movement like yours.
Great start! I upvoted 100%!
Wow! Thank you for the huge upvote!
I hope to get sponsors to help the right kind of bloggers, those who will abide by the creed and do no wrong, to help each other and maximize all their votes.
With your SP, your 0.15% is equivalent to the newbie's 15 SP and your participation could energize them.
Also, I understand that resteeming cost just as much as a 100% vote and should be avoided, so, I want to also share that with newbies and do this to network instead.
Thank you so much!
"I understand that resteeming cost just as much as a 100% vote"
I did not know this. I do not see my power drop when I resteem.
I was told by a big guy, older steemian that resteeming has no benefits besides that - I have not verified that because it made sense to not resteem.
you are right. I tested and confirmed it - no charge or cost to resteem.
very interesting idea @freedomshift! I like that you are trying to find ways to help people... I know there are lots of ways that people are trying and to me that is what makes the most sense... Everyone keep trying to help and eventually we will all get bigger and realize who the real people were that tried to help others!
hey @davemccoy - please take a look at how #ccc is doing.
Will do right now @freedomshift!
@davemccoy - Thank you sir!
I see that as Texas or southern "line dancing" and once the line started and more people join in, they will develop good habits and make the right kind of associations.
It is also like the original automobiles or propeller airplanes - you need to crank it a few times to get it to start.
I am looking for a few, newbie or oldie, to start using the #ccc tag and give it a "crank" - I posted one as an example with #ccc.
Thanks again!
cool @freedomshift keep me in touch and let me know how it is going with it! I'm interested if people get going once they figured it out :)
Hello @davemccoy!
Have you taken a look at #ccc lately?
#ccc for Guaranteed ๐ Daily Income ๐ต and Payout ๐ธ for Newbies ๐ ๐ ๐ in #ccc ๐ฃ and Follow ๐ฃ the Honor Code ๐ - the Creed (Conditions and Limits Inside) has been growing steadily and I would love your feedback and help.
All the best!
@davemccoy - You have been invited to:
"6.9.18 Saturday (or Cat-turday - ๐บ meow) To Launch or Not to Launch - that is the Question! Upvotes and Prizes ๐๐ ๐ฌ ๐ Give-away" - please click on #ccc to find the post.
All the best!
I think your idea is well-intentioned, and I completely agree with your reasoning and your objective. But I think this is an awful lot of work for very little reward.
I have been here a year and I'm writing a series of posts about that now. I have not yet written about the curation guilds but I am in several that give "automatic" upvotes to me.
I feel like my biggest mistake here has been NOT to try to get into any of those groups that might give my higher upvotes. I decided to ignore those older people since they already had their own thing going. However, I now believe it would have been better for me to try and find groups like that where I had something in common with them.
Joining with smaller minnows is a way to stay small. No matter what you all do together, you will grow very slowly this way. When I had the very low power like that, I tried everything to improve myself. It was not until I leased sp to get above 500 that anything improved.
I know people who came in at the same time as me and decided to focus on getting into those places. They are all far and away doing better than me.
I'm am also very curious about you idea for no self voting by minnows. How did you come to that decision?
I have simplified the rules - removed self-voting and bot voting - to keep things simple and get started.
Thank you!
That's what this initiative is for - self-forming groups and not try to join existing groups that might not welcome you.
I am hoping to have a few "big SP voters" to join and to upvote the group to jump start this. The big SP voters will help shape this group and guide them with the right ideas - note: this #ccc initiative if open to anyone who will abide by the creed, honor code for the posts using #ccc.
I agree. I invested and Powered Up early on and was able to make friends with higher SP - they have helped me advance in rep. A few minnows excel in their work / posts and have gained attention organically or through the right association - @honeysim and coder-bts, for example.
And, that's why I need help from bigger SP voters.
I am a nerd, geek, IT and chemical engineering and I am used to analyzing structure, systems, and processes - so, to me, it is obvious that self-voting will prevent the formation of networks.
Also, there is an old saying - "A cord of three strands is not quickly broken." _- I heard this when I was a child and allegedly said by Alexander the great to his children (I know now it's from the Bible).
" it is obvious that self-voting will prevent the formation of networks"
Why do you say this?
Draw the voting diagram to see the network for anyone - it will be obvious. it is one that @steembasicincome showed in a post - enhanced votes graph.
I know about that graph, but how does that "prevent the formation of networks?"
it's a casual comment - no one know if it will or not. "prevent" might be too strong a word, but, certainly it is frowned upon by many, so, maybe it slows down or inhibits forming networks?
I have newbies that vote on my posts and that got my attention and if I find them to be voting with discernment, I'll upvote them with a minimum of $0.03 and often gained a friend. But, if a newbie self-votes only and not others, I'll stay away.
Another way of saying this - and for all, not just newbies - I check their voting pattern before I make a stronger association or vote on their posts, blogs and comments. networks and built with bi-directional voting and self-voting stops many attempts when one does not get anything back.
I have people upvoting my posts without commenting, and if the votes are meaningful, I'll vote on theirs back. I am in a network with a few silent voters with mutual support in votes only.
on a positive note:
networks can form only if people support each other somewhat equally in votes and in comments.
I am a geek and a nerd, so, my sense of a network might be quite different than most people not dealing with real-world networks.
Well, after this answer, I still do not know why self-voting is a detriment to networking. I have many networks here:
None of that has anything to do with self voting. The only place I do not like this is people who always vote their own comments.
I just looked at a few of the bigger fish I look up to here and most of them are self-voting. I notice a couple of those voting themselves with less than 100% now, but they are still giving themselves a good vote. Someone's 20% upvote was showing as over $7.
I upvote the comments people make on my posts. I think this is a key to the engagement I have because people come to see what I'm saying and know they are likely to get a comment upvote. These people enter my network.
This is not a casual thing for you - it's a requirement if minnows want to join your ccc idea.
Since I listed it up above, I encourage you to read my recent post about kryptonia and give it a try. In the year I have been here, this is the best place I have found for good networking and great rewards. It has down a lot for me since I started using it in February.
I have not once checked anyone's voting pattern in the year I have been here. If they have good content and engage with me - that's what I look for.
if a "bridge" is there one day and gone the next or if it is one way only, is it really a bridge?
lol - well, when you get good votes by people you have not seen before, you can go try to engage. But often those votes are by sock puppet accounts, so you will not get anywhere. In that case, I am just thankful when they come.
You have been invited to:
"6.9.18 Saturday (or Cat-turday - ๐บ meow) To Launch or Not to Launch - that is the Question! Upvotes and Prizes ๐๐ ๐ฌ ๐ Give-away" - please click on #ccc to find the post.
All the best!
@fitinfun - please see how #ccc is doing.
It looks like you are getting a good number of posts to the tag. How are you feeling about it?
I know the new participants are thrilled about it - and that's what matters.
I have confirmed referrals and one new participant, the one celebrating 1,000 followers, accidentally use #ccc but I was able to show him the benefits of sharing with his followers, and he did include my guarantee (a screenshot and the URL) in his post.
I have also translations of the creed by two participants into French and Indonesian. So, for day 3 after the weekend launch, not bad.
I have a few who are not quite getting the rules, but, I am "cutting them some slack" and have guaranteed income and payout just the same.
Please come and join the party - no commitments - one day at a time.
All the best!
I will take a look again, but at this point, I think I will not be continuing with steemit at all, sadly.
hmmm ... ๐
Hello @freedomshift, I think your initiative is worth to take for granted, but I don't know whether any planktons would interesting to join. I have seen a massive new accounts born on January, 2018 and only a few survived. why? because no one vote for their post except themseves.
But I don't really know how this going to be, I will try to add my post to your new channel/hashtag. I can help you to post (I only use 3 or 2 hashtag for my own project, adding one of yours is not a problem at all. I will learn about this first. I'll come up with another question if i find it a bit confusing . Cheers!
I have seen a post on retention rates and a large majority of people dropped out within 90 days. This is why this initiative is for - get them into the right group from the start. Help them do the right thing.
This #ccc is only for one post each day so each minnow will upvote others 10 times at 12 SP or higher per day.
I also need help to spread the word - invitations to people you know well, minnows or supporters alike - I'll come up with prizes besides upvotes.
hey, you don't have to send me any prizes, better send your money on promote, have you? I can add the link this time, but I will make a special post about it too.
You have been invited to:
"6.9.18 Saturday (or Cat-turday - ๐บ meow) To Launch or Not to Launch - that is the Question! Upvotes and Prizes ๐๐ ๐ฌ ๐ Give-away" - please click on #ccc to find the post.
All the best!
@wales - the question that you have asked on SP is covered here, references on this post, and here (below referenced url):
https://steemit.com/payitforward/@sweetcnw/re-freedomshift-my-entry-to-week-9-pay-it-forward-curation-contest-by-thedarkhorse-20180530t004043094z
I am not sure how to respond..because I was/am never into any such groups but I would like to say we should be positive always...So like you replied here
I will also say Lets HOPE FOR THE BEST AND PREPARE FOR THE WORST and wish every success for this..I would like to be part of it so somepoints are yet to get a clear picture in my head..
But lets move...there should be starting trouble and let me know when it will take off and how we could be able to get those 10 posts with #CCC tag..
Thank you for remembering me to inform this..
It is really not a group, per se, as it is free to join one day and not other days. It is newbies helping newbies and not let any votes go to dust or wasted.
Those with more than 120 SP, they might not need this and self-vote, but, they can also join to network.
Give it one post - @cicisaja is the first and the train has started to burn fuel.
to start:
Ok... I got it....Lets start....
Can challenges and contests can post with this tag...say if it is having 200 words and ofcourse provided photos are genuine...
Lets hope this Creed becomes a personal greed later
yes, use the #ccc tag with your other tags as you wish and choose.
@freedomshift The statements that start 'I will', do we have to copy and paste those into our posts?
not for the "pay it forward" entry, but, yes for future posts using #ccc to help others identify your post as one to upvote for the stated purposes.
As stated in some of my comments, the "rules" are for receiving full benefits and bonuses and if you do, copy and paste, or do it in a graphics such as a screen shot, or a short statement or an URL with the title of the curation circle creed - anything will help others to upvote your post with no hesitation.
Please see this updated post:
https://steemit.com/ccc/@freedomshift/day-2-after-launch-guaranteed-daily-income-and-payout-for-newbies-in-ccc-and-follow-the-honor-code-the-creed-conditions-and
Thanks and welcome to "guaranteed daily income and payout with #ccc"!
..sounds interesting, will give it a try soon..follow you..