For some time now I have been plagued with constant messages on Discord from random people I have never held discussions with on Steemit or within a Discord Community on Steemit. In fact I have had my profile set to DO NOT DISTURB for some time now, yet these messages don’t seem to let up.
Check out this message I received this morning
This person didn’t even bother to look at my profile picture, unless of course I am a lot more butch than I though. Do I look like a man to you?
This is a daily occurrence and I know I am not the only one. From requests for delegated SP to ‘please send me SBD my father is ill and needs medicine’, to’ vote for my post now’ with a link.
I do like to help. I also like to believe I am known in discord for helping people, putting them on the right track, showing support, offering guidance and rewarding steemains for making changes and improvements.
Maybe it is a cultural thing, maybe I am losing patients, but it’s time to address this issue. So I have prepared some guidelines and Etiquette for when you are on Discord.
Steemit Community Discord Guidelines and Etiquette
1. Communities have a general chat. It may have a slightly different name depending on the community, but this is where you go to start taking with people. General chat is open to a lot of conversation from Steemit to other stuff. It’s a place to hang out and get to know other people in the community.
2. General Chat is not a place to put links to your posts. This is SPAM.
3. General Chat is not a place to beg for votes or follows or even SP delegation, although you can ask question’s about the topics.
The image above was taken directly from the blockchainbi general chat……DO NOT DO THIS.
4. Communities tend to have a post promotion channel. This is the only place you should put links. Putting links elsewhere without the approval of the admin or mods will get you a bad reputation.
5. Do not send private messages (AKA DMs) to people that you have had no interaction with. By this I mean if you have not had a discussion with someone on discord in the server, do not send them a DM. If you want to DM someone that you have not DM before, then you should ask them if it is okay on the server. Do NOT send them a DM asking if it is OK to DM them. Keep things public unless you get permission to go private.
6. Respect Privacy. If someone has DO NOT DISTURB set…then guess what….DO NOT DISTRUB.
7. DO NOT send links to your post to people unless they have said it is okay. If you do then YOU ARE A SPAMMER.
8. DO NOT ask for money, STEEM or SBD
9. DO NOT ask people to Follow for Follow
10. DO NOT ask people to upvote for upvote
11. DO NOT be offensive to people
12. DO NOT be insulting to people
13. DO offer help and guidance to others within the communities
14. DO answer questions with reasonable care when others need help – those that give also receive.
So from here on in, any unsolicited contact and spam I receive on discord will be sent a reply with a link to this post. If you are experiencing the same, feel free to direct them here.
I really want to be able to help people, to add value, provide advice and support, but many worthy people are not getting my attention because of the levels of spam. If you have been sent this link then you are spamming and you need to change before you get a very bad reputation. Take this as a piece of advice and learn from it. If you are not willing to learn you will not grow and will get no help from me.
If you think I have left anything out, then please do comment below
STEEM ON - UPVOTE - RESTEEM and FOLLOW
Sometimes I will find their profile and downvote them for this.
lol dont blame you. I havent been this harsh yet.....im really trying to help people and change their behaviors, but it does not seem to be working
May I lend you "my" reaction gif for whenever I'm called "sir" or "bro"?
And that etiquette applies to steemit.chat too.. It's so tiring after a while.
lol love this......maybe I should use it, thanks for the share, it will be funny
Saya suka dengan reaksi anda ketika dipanggil bro..he..he.he..
You are speaking from my heart! I tend to just ignore such requests, blocking them would be too much already 😕
I have probably been feeding a little more than I should, as I have been trying to help, but its just got way out of control now. Thanks for stopping by
Fortunately I haven't been addressed that much by random discord users, but I'm reminded now how I should handle it if it happens more often. I'm here to create, not spread myself too thin :O
I'm OK with links so long as they're relevant.
I am having the same problem and have considered turning my Discord account to only allow messages from friends. A very useful feature that not many use but it does make things difficult at times as you can't continue conversations you have started unless you get a mutual friendship going.
In that case, accept my friendship or I wont be able to spam you with my questions. :)
thank you for the heads up on this feature @themarkymark. I would imagine your spam levels are somewhat more than mine
You got a 1.86% upvote from @upmyvote courtesy of @themarkymark!
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I absolutely I understand this feeling. I have just 900 sp and the number of private messages I get from Facebook, WhatsApp and discord users is just crazy. Now I'm wondering, if I get this type of disturbance for 900 sp, what will happen when I hit 5000 sp?
Well the problem is not the constant messages from different people, the problem is that most good people with good contents don't like spamming because they don't spam, they end up getting ignored and go unseen.
Spammers gets most the attention and sometimes the attention they get is out of pity.
oh I have given pity attention too. which is a shame beacuse as you point out, good content gets left behind. Last night I actually asked someone to send me their post, and they refused. Told me if I got it in my feed or searches then good but they dont like to send links. This steemain is an awesome steemain, and only 2 months on the platform and I have missed may of his posts because of spam.
I agree with you, write well but no reward
Ha!
I knew, I just knew, that there was somewhere some-kind advantage of having low steem-power LOL ;-)
‘please send me SBD my father is ill and needs medicine’
OMG! Is this a thing that is really happening?
Go steem On
Hopefully your day is always fun, interesting post
Thank you posting that explains about some ethics and rules in communicating on discord. warm greetings from me. Thanks @paulag
interesting post
Sadly there are a lot of accounts out there i would consider of the spamming kind with a high reputation too...
Same problem here as a curie curator. Lots of DMs asking too look at posts and consider for curie upvotes. I've also considered what themarkymark said and only allowing DMs from friends, but there are a lot of contacts on there that I haven't friended that I may well want to converse with at some point.
your post is very interesting, hopefully your day is very fun. thanks for sharing
WE NEED STEEMIT.CHAT BACK
what is that got to do with this post? The same applies on Steemit.chat
SPAM is SPAM
True, but people are still going to continue to do that, and only people like you can bring around change by writing about it, so keep that going for the good of the community AMIRITE
thank you
I agree! So simple yet many are not following.
It's a sad thing when everyone is just trying to get free delegation, Steem, SBD without contributing to the community and providing quality OC.
It seems as though all the people who phish on other platforms are starting to make their way over here.
Thanks for the post and raising awareness to the people who may be getting some of the same unsolicited requests on Discord.
@paulag Sorry I want to ask and do not get angry, For points 9 and 10, why you write vote resteem and follow in your post, does it exclude asking for votes. Sorry I am still a beginner and do not understand
I am not angry. Call to actions within a post is not the same as spamming someone. People do not have to read my posts, if they chose to they get a call to action at the bottom, this is not an infringement of privacy and is also not spam. Calls to action are common in social media. lets look at this this way, all the famous Youtubers would say something like, dont forget to follow, leave a comment below and subscribe. You have heard this on youtube right? They are adding content to a video, like I have added content to my post. That is so different to contacting people and telling them to upvote and follow you. People chose to read your post, if they dont like the content they can downvote or flag. I am not sending begging letters either.....there is a big difference in a call to action and bad etiquette. Does that make sense to you?
I did not say in my post that I will upvote you if you upvote me (Upvote for Upvote) and I also have not agreed to follow you if you follow me. There is a clear distinction between a call to action and spam
Terima kasih, saya akan belajar lagi dan terus mencoba untuk menulis dan saya akan membawa berita ini ke orang-orang baru yang bergabung dengan komunitas steemit di negara saya
glad you understand the difference
Yes, its completely different between begging and "advertising", i don't think the business man posted a advertisement on newspaper is a beggar....
there is a massive difference in advertising and begging, you are right
Ya, steemit rule allowed promoting our article to be read (advertising) but we can not beg
You are right 👉 it can be frustrating. Nice post
Yes, that's a very nice feminine photo of you @paulag, but sure nowadays you never can tell ;).
I have also discovered that, yes, different cultures just simply behave differently, and I'm finding that I have to be more patient and understanding, before I put the boot in. I politely pointed out (that's not like me) to one person that they should not do this spam thing, and they immediately apologized! I was glad I gave the benefit of the doubt on that occasion. I shall politely point them to your post here in future..............so that they can spam you instead :). Thank you.
lol cheers, you have taken the same aproach as I have in the past, be nice and be polite and explain to them. But because i have had to say the same thing over and over, I though, sure why not write a post and direct people to it
just directed someone to your post :). They were trying to sell me a trading course, hahah!!
Its more of that. They don't understand stepping into another person's personal space and asking for various things.
The guidelines you can up with are very helpful.
Those unwritten rules are finally should be written due to the lack of sensitivity interaction by some stemians.
Thanks for writing those rules clearly @paulag. Such a great warning for myself.
losing patients
That must be the worst feeling for a doctor
I understand your feelings, sometimes the desire to forget about ethics in a community, respect
The same goes for the comments section on Steemit itself and I think the the writing of inane comments like 'Great post, I'm glad I know that now fine sir' is also a straw on the camels back.
hehheheh yes I have seen this too. Although we tell people to comment as much as possible and from what I hear, they are doing just what they are told. I think explanations need to be in more detail
I have been getting that on steemit.chat for a long time and those that just drop their links. Then on discord. Of course, others will say "Good post" or "Nice post" and they think it's so good and so nice that they never even upvote just 1%. After a while, I learn who not to was my time with on my bandwidth and decided to mute these jokers.
Hey ma plase help I work hard on post and no upvotes.
Or my favorite so far.
I am a photographer and have no time to write. My pictures are enough.
‘These pictures were taken on their phone of random objects on there home.
Oh the joys and blessing of discord
hahahha I never got that one from the photographer.......
yep, Im sure all the funny ones I get do not compare to others, but I have a ton of fun with my spammers. Its probably the reason why i don't get very many DM's too.
i have seen you work with spammers in the community, you rock
Looks like they really got you. 😂
I could not agree more! It is really disturbing to have people DM you out of nowhere when they could just engage in the chat channels. It is really annoying to see how some people just have that need to abuse and beg for upvotes. Anyways, at least pointing it out like you do surely helps spread the word :)
Nice picture ma Lol
Hi Paulag, since I am very new to the community I haven't had the problems you are talking about. But your words seem very wise to me. Would also be a great first Information for Newbies. Everyone should have this Information when starting.
This will be an ever going struggle as people continually come on a new. I have myself set as invisible often now.
invisible....hmmm is that different to Do not disturb? maybe I could try that....
Oh definitely take advantage of it. It shows you as offline even though you have discord open, there will be a grey circle next to your name instead of the green, red or yellow.
Very good
thank you, excellent outlining of manners and courtesy!
I changed my profile picture. I am not so famous but still got some msgs, some addressing me as sir and some asking for votes and so on. this is an occurrence in almost any site. Thanks for the tips. I pride myself in being a woman.
Another very irritating thing I noticed among some sections is the sexist attitude towards women - like why women are getting more votes etc but sad to say, they have not noticed that men do get votes too. there is only one way to success and that is consistency and of course, honesty and hard work. God bless
hello , thank you for writing.
i am new to this platform, and havnt discovered discord yet.
where can i learn about it ?
Very useful post. Thanks a lot.
unfortunately, the economic inequality is abysmal and what for me could seem annoying to others is really a matter of survival, I think begging and bad education must be taken with tweezers because there are cases and cases and fair pay for sinners, all Forms I agree that rules must be set and that we respect them to advance in an organized manner ....
on PAL on discord one of the mods r0nd0n put the hard 'white people are inherently better than black people' sell on me, and i told him off, then asked the mods if that was acceptable behavior, and I was booted from the server.
I reject the idea that a. you have to be on discord or chat to promote your posts or b. that you can't post links to your work in comments if it is relevant.
an entire series of posts, more than a book length, best I can tell have been seen by around 100 people, meanwhile the most meaningless crypto hype gets hundreds of dollars of upvotes. it's pretty infuriating.
i am not at all certain steemit is in any way legit. my feed simply doesn't show me posts I want to see and i have to search out specific users i follow to get their posts. and i don't see hardly any posts before they have been up for 3+ hours, so getting any curation is difficult.
it is basically so that actual censorship would look exactly like this if the algorigthm, like reddits, simply silo's anyone who is off topic.
sigh
"Maybe it is a cultural thing, maybe I am losing patients"
Are you a doctor? :p
Plus, I feel your pain, there are a lot of people here thinking they can get tons of sbd and sp by simply asking.
I say let them ask away till they are banned from every community except a couple I can think off that are mainly only that - Asking hubs.
Cheers
GO GIRL!!!! Was about time to say something!
Wow
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If i were you, i will ask what he meand for one more time (considering whether he understand english or not) then i kick him out from steemit hahah