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RE: PCR Inventor & Nobel Prize Winner: "Fauci Is An Ignorant Liar With an Agenda & Has Too Much Power"

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As for resonator, I can vote with that account. Maybe I should just upvote stabiliser like Marky in order to avoid any possibility of having curation reduced by other people's downvotes, while all I do is downvote others all day like a psychopath. Maybe if everyone copies him Hive will really take off - such social and community building skill - so deserving of support. lol.

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Can't speak for his activity but it looks like those comments also get downvoted and people still upvote them because of the value the stabilizer brings to the ecosystem. During days where there's not that much to curate or we've been voting the same authors too often we find ourselves casting a couple votes on them as well as it's quite a win for Hive and things don't need to be overrewarded all the time. I think it's a good thing that Hive can be flexible with the reward pool where stakeholders can adjust what gets rewarded during certain periods that may bring the ecosystem and at the same time regular users the best outcome long term.

There's plenty of stuff to upvote other than that, though, resonator started off well with curation from what I remember but seems to have gotten a bit lazy lately.

Marky, from what I have seen, votes absolutely nothing other than stabiliser and has been doing that for many months. The only other votes he casts are downvotes, which he does constantly. I can't even imagine being so backwards of a person.. How can you sit all day doing nothing in the community but downvoting?

It is a strategy so that he doesn't have to put any time into the community and can increase his curation percentage at the same time. It's obvious.

Resonator curation can take between 1 and 2 hours per day. Lately, the quality of posts on Hive that fit the scope of Resonator voting has dropped very low - the majority of posts are people just taking news stories and slightly adjusting them, with no additional insight or useful information. This is part of why I have taken the time to gain presence on Twitter and have been speaking directly with some of the most well known people on the web (in the spaces I focus into) - to try to get more capable content creators here that will boost SEO and bring excitement/growth. I feel like saying that marketing and communism are somewhat opposites. :/

I am with @starkerz when it comes to the value in Hive. The value is primarily in free speech and the power we gain through free speech cannot be matched by any amount of money. However, only those who speak out and use free speech will ever really know this in a meaningful way.

In short, the downvoting sprees of the past have destroyed the base of what once made this platform promising for a large percentage of the population. You may not be one of those people and you may think differently to the people who have shunned Hive by now, but the reality is that the world is waking up to the truth of what I have been saying all the way through COVID - it will not be long before it is undeniable by all but the pharma execs who should be executed for what they have been doing. This is an unprecedented opportunity for learning and growth among the human population - so is also a potentially make or break moment for Hive. I'm pretty sure that Musk fully understands this and he isn't going to miss an opportunity to leave Hive in the dust. We can either support those who dedicate themselves to truth and free speech or not - for me there is no possible way to choose the latter.

FWIW that goes about any influencer I'd come across, even some small time YouTubers I brought in from gods unchained I often check their discords where they have a hive section and actively post/engage here if I continue to support them or not.

It's fine to overreward such influencers as a "honemoney period" but if they continue to just post and expect "free money" for life without any attempts to bring some actual value to the ecosystem it's really not that crazy to expect the autovotes/support to decline, if not by themselves them with the help of some downvotes.

Feel like I'm just repeating stuff I've often mentioned, probably towards you as well so gonna stop now.

You're using the same stick most do when it comes to downvotes, "oh I was going to bring in so much traffic/users/money" if only it wasn't for those darn downvotes. Most influencers who post about those interests have proven that even after years of no downvotes and big upvotes/autovotes they've barely brought anything of value to the ecosystem in terms of users, it's evident by the lack of engagement even though they constantly trend, let alone the negligence in attempting to bring anyone here. If they aren't going to do it, maybe it's time to give other people/groups a chance rather than continuously overreward them with early stake for placeholder/cross-posts close to no one here consumes. If most of them leave/stop posting/lash out on the first downvotes maybe they don't really value censorship resistance and are just like most other fake influencers with a fake following they know won't bring any traffic over and are just interested in the rewards.

That said I know we're still early on and most users post mainly cause of the rewards but I haven't been someone to zero the rewards completely (except a few cases where the lashing out was idiotic) yet they still complained about small downvotes, often times 10-15% of the total post rewards while their posts are empty and their web2 socials don't even attempt to backing to Hive ever. It's hard to ignore that because I care about the platform, our curation focuses on so many things when we upvote content that seeing such blatant farming of "ghost influencers" is hard for me to not act upon, even if it often is only a symbolic downvote slightly adjusting the rewards but still gets the craziest reactions from them.

Musk and most others are never going to fully give the community control/fair distribution of stake, if they wanted to they would've already copied hive/steem by now and used their name/brand to push it.

You're using the same stick most do when it comes to downvotes, "oh I was going to bring in so much traffic/users/money" if only it wasn't for those darn downvotes

Uh, not in my mind - in the slightest. The reality is that to the outside world, they have zero reason to come here unless they are able to see unique selling points. The main unique selling point is 'Hive offers a new way to be social where you don't have bosses and middle men pushing you around'.. Then they get here without actually knowing how the incredibly complex and totally undocumented algorithms really work and just see a mirror image of the rest of the world, where some people have the power to push them around and punish them for breaking rules they never saw or agreed to. lol. Surely you must accept that this is an accurate description of the experience of a large number of people who come here?! Maybe we live on different planets.

I literally am oriented to bringing some of the many Doctors and other experts who have been totally cancelled by silicon valley on here - e.g. Dr. Naomi Wolfe, who you can see me communicating with on Twitter and inviting here. What is demotivating me is not the 'loss of money' from downvotes, it's the petty mentality that has been cultivated here behind what goes along with it...

Ohh... you might possibly have posted this video before several years ago.. I'm telling Daddy.. for fuck's sake - grow up people. I literally just watched videos of 10 men's heads exploded with shrapnel in Ukraine - haven't you got anything more significant to participate in and add to life??

As far as bringing people here goes, I have virtually no interest in 99% of 'influencers' online - they are mostly vapid and moronic people. I am aiming to bring in people who are intelligent and legitimate thought leaders who have been rudely awakened by their own censorship during COVID - that they are facing an existential threat due to the wrong people having been trusted with too much power. Again, if you read Musk's tweets in the last few months - you'll see he agrees 100% with what I'm saying. He has publicly said that blockchain powered social media won't work because it won't scale.. I don't necessarily trust him either and he may just be saying that to distract away from competition.. However, you can be sure that he is fully intending to evolve Twitter to be attractive to Hive's key target demographics in particular. He is also monetising Twitter so that users get ad revenue in the next few weeks.

Marky, from what I have seen, votes absolutely nothing other than stabiliser and has been doing that for many months.

Because I have 3 whales downvoting everything I upvote and everything I post for the last year, everyone knows this.

It is a strategy so that he doesn't have to put any time into the community and can increase his curation percentage at the same time. It's obvious.

This is bullshit, I've been one of the most benevolent curators for the last few years prior.

This is bullshit, I've been one of the most benevolent curators for the last few years prior.

I have no recollection of that but curation is designed to be a way to earn rewards on your investment.. I'm not really sure it's possible to be a benevolent curator as such - other than by not upvoting yourself. Anyway, what I want is a community that looks out for each other, I am not intending to attack you or anyone here - I'm just tired of feeling like I'm being attacked while all I'm actually trying to do is to help people.

I'm not really sure it's possible to be a benevolent curator as such - other than by not upvoting yourself.

Which you do for $15-20/post. And by benevolent I mean I don't self vote, I cannot be influenced by votes, I don't play favorites, I voted over 200 unique authors a week, many of my votes were for people who got very little support, I could go on. But really this is just using pulling me in as a strawman argument to take the attention off you. I was no part of this, nor does what I do justify what you do.

I'm just tired of feeling like I'm being attacked while all I'm actually trying to do is to help people.

So you pull me into this argument that has nothing to do with me to attack me to deflect? I can't even be bothered to read what this is about.

I have literally made a handful of posts which have received larger upvotes recently - that's it. The account isn't mine and the rules are mostly nonsensical - which is why Steem was designed a different way, originally - by people who, to me, understood the situation a lot better.

So you curate for the benefit of others? Why not give your curation rewards away to the people you upvote who get very little support? Now that would be really benevolent.

Perhaps you have forgotten downvoting a post I made at about 100% and then when I complained and you understood the situation, you apologised and didn't reverse the downvote. It didn't feel benevolant and everyone in the room laughed at you.. but anyway.

I have literally made a handful of posts which have received larger upvotes recently - that's it.

That's why your content is 9.1% of all the votes in the last 7 days? Good curation you got going on there. In fact, you are the top account you (self)vote with that free delegation.

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Perhaps you have forgotten downvoting a post I made at about 100% and then when I complained and you understood the situation, you apologised and didn't reverse the downvote. It didn't feel benevolant and everyone in the room laughed at you.. but anyway.

I didn't appologize, and the downvote was justified. In fact, I was sick of your whining for 6 months about downvotes in just about every discord you were in.

everyone knows this.

They obviously don't because I don't and I've never heard anyone mentioning it.

Why do they do that and who are they?