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RE: I Said I'd Take a Break - Two Weeks Later: Still Here

in #life7 years ago

Now I didn't get on here today with the intention of being a debbie downer, my intention everyday when I get on here is under the understanding I'll be long dead and have to find a way to post from the grave before I ever reach whale status, with that said it is because this place operates basically as a ponzi scheme so retention is crucial especially in a downturn. You can argue all day long about it but one only has to look at the incredible long odds of making any substantial amount of money on here without buying in or using a number of other tactics like delegation or bots. I would be a perfect example of someone who came on here and honestly, now remember I said "honestly" no sock puppets, no cheating, tried one bot and came out a penny ahead, no delegation, have spent countless hours on here and every time I think I am just about to make my first hundred bucks it starts sliding back down, down, down....there is absolutely no way unless you are twenty years old and keep at it every day until you are fifty is one going to make being a whale in the most honest of fashion on here. Any body can figure that out after just a few postings, math wasn't my strong point in school but it wasn't a total loss on me. If you weren't part of the start up crowd the chances of making it on here without cheating your way to the top is slim to non.

The good news though....I won't ditch out on you guys no matter how much you wish someone would throw me alongside that dead goldfish and give me that great swirly down the plumbing drain.

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  1. Try blaming yourself. Maybe your content just isn't interesting and folks can't seem to find a reason to vote for it. Try changing your approach before blaming others.

  2. You're setting the bar too high. You've only been here six months, you rarely post your own work, and you already want to be a whale. That'll never happen so maybe try setting your sights on a goal you can actually achieve.

  3. When you see someone like me who's been around for a long time and actually earns something, what you're seeing is the result of nearly two years of hard work and dedication. We're not earning simply because we were here at a specific time. You came here, expect to get somewhere, see people getting somewhere after a LONG TIME, and think you can't do it as well? That's your own fault. What will you say to people who say the same damn nonsense to you two years from now when they see you earning?

  4. Entitlement issues won't get you anywhere. Just because you post here doesn't mean you should be earning by default. Earning is the keyword here. One must earn their earnings.

  5. There are many people who started at the same time as you. I see many of them earning something and gaining ground.

Fuck this guy, you are loosing your time. I had a look at his blog, many of his recent posts are flagged for being a content thief.

Yeah, it's mainly copy/pasted material. That's why my first suggestion to this character was to change their approach if they'd like to see some money some day.

I've had problems with this one in the past, and so have other people. It's nothing. I honestly expected this outcome. It's no big deal to me. It doesn't take much effort for me to be straightforward and firm with folks.

  1. I have written several things of my own which got hardly any recognition. That's the problem, it's not that there wasn't a effort it's the part where everyone is more interested in people who have the money to dole out to them and the ones who have the money are just interested in those same consumers maintaining their blogs for profit then spending any time out supporting new people when they first hit the platform. I don't recall but have you ever looked at any of my post and made a comment, you know they don't have to be "new" and earning money to get some praise. Even if it's not as "quality" as you like neither is everything you post. So come one, tell me have you ever reciprocated just once in return for as many times as I have visited your site?

  2. I never said I wanted to be a whale I said I calculated what it would take to become a whale while honestly following all the rules. It wasn't worth it, I'd be dead first. That's exactly what I said. Out of the many, many people who I follow on a regular basis (minus a couple I give a hard time to) only a couple of those people have ever posted a comment back on a article that I did. I never fail to see them, I never fail to look at what they are writing about yet they are as blind as a bat to me.

  3. You still haven't faced the fact that the earlier one got in the better their chances were of being noticed, that's crucial. That's what helped you over those joining today, there was less content competing for attention. You can't deny that fact. I dare you to start giving everyone less than a penny up vote and let's see how your people stick around. They won't.

  4. No I think you have that wrong. Go read my introduction letter, I never expected anything from this site.

  5. No there is absolutely no one, and please do feel free to give me names to check out if I am wrong, that I have seen getting anywhere on here unless they've bought in, use bots, made sock puppets, had prior name recognition on some other site like u tube and got a huge delegation granted to them, or are investing in delegation, doing nude stuff or cheating in some other fashion growing at any accelerated pace.

I read through this entire thing. I have a bit of a headache now. I thought your name sounded familiar, and in this case it wasn't a positive connotation. After a little investigation I found I was right, your name was familiar, and it wasn't positive. You started this conversation with "I didn't get on here today with the intention of being a debbie downer..." I think either you are greatly disillusioned in terms of your intentions, you're a liar, or you just enjoy negativity to an extent I can't comprehend.
I've been on vacation, and I'm just now catching up on some of my favorite authors as well as reading relevant, recent posts. And not only do I find you here, bringing down one of the greatest content creators on steemit, I also find you here slandering one of the kindest, most altruistic people I've met on this platform- and I've been here since 2016.
Perhaps you are simply a troll, in which case I am wasting my time by engaging you. In which case for anyone else who happens upon this comment- at least you'll know.

If you have any heart or soul, please re-think the legacy you're leaving here.

Negativity in the true sense on here for the majority is the inability to censor/ban people who don't fall in line like puppets. Way to many men on this site who can't stand a opinionated woman. I merely left my opinion, if one didn't like it they didn't have to participate/engage to get more of it. You all complain about people acting like sheep but you expect them to do exactly that on here.

I never do understand those who are so determined not to be viewed as a sheep that they're willing to look like a rabidly hissing badger instead. Far better, that.
The men here can't stand an opinionated woman...okay, you're a narcissist, I get it now. I mean obviously if you were a man saying the things you do it would be loads different. Couldn't possibly be because you're unpleasant.
Actually, I should probably thank you. My current belief is that this life requires a balance, so for me to be generally positive, there has to be someone with an opposite demeanor.

I do have a balance you just haven't spent enough time reading through all my comments. Sometimes it just takes someone to turn a stone and I think from some of what I've been seeing that happened with family protection. I see more post, more quality post, more people interacting with comments out side of hate mongering lingo that all sounds the same. If something positive came out of it it was for the better.

I can't help but pointing one thing out though....you see I said opinionated, as I was saying men on here can't take a opinionated woman, you proved my point my calling me a narcissist....the man's point of view somehow always has to make the woman sound worse. Your positivism heads into overdrive please feel free to look me up....given this site chances are I'll be sparring with someone somewhere, remember though a new dawn arises.

I'm utterly bewildered by this reply! For one thing, how is the man's point of view even involved since we're both women? It is your opinion that men can't take an opinionated woman, it is my opinion that your opinion is ludicrous. You might state experience for your opinion, I'd state the same. And I hope this comment is just as coherent as yours was.

(It's not narcissistic at all to suggest I should spend my time reading through all your comments. Not a bit ;)

I have written several things of my own which got hardly any recognition.

So have I. Don't hear me whining.

That's the problem, it's not that there wasn't a effort it's the part where everyone is more interested in people who have the money blah blah blah

Incorrect. I started out with nothing, people eventually noticed my work.

I don't recall but have you ever looked at any of my post and made a comment, you know they don't have to be "new" and earning money to get some praise. Even if it's not as "quality" as you like neither is everything you post. So come one, tell me have you ever reciprocated just once in return for as many times as I have visited your site?

I've visited your blog a couple of times. I'm not interested in that stuff and that's no different than thousands of people here not being interested in mine. That's a part of life. Meanwhile I've visited plenty of other bloggers who are new and I've supported much of their work. In some cases, my vote is the largest vote they see. I'm not always available to leave comments. Producing my blog and responding to comments here uses up a lot of my available time to be doing this sort of thing, but I still try.

As for this junk you said in number three: You weren't here. Would you like me to clue you in? I was here, I can speak from experience.

There were far fewer people here to notice the blog posts. Just because there fewer blogging didn't mean there were just as many here as there is now to notice them.

I dare you to start giving everyone less than a penny up vote and let's see how your people stick around. They won't.

BULLSHIT! Long before you were here, it would take about 100 minnow votes just to for me to be able to see a dime. We didn't even vote up comments like we do now because it wasn't worth it. Then they changed the rewards curve and gave everyone on the lower a higher valued vote.

Many people stuck around during that period when ONLY the large votes made a difference, many of them are still here today. We were blogging for 10 cent STEEM as well, with no way of knowing the value would ever rise, yet we stayed.

Honestly, if this place bothers you so much; and if the people who made something of themselves only look like luck rather than hard work in your eyes... maybe this place isn't for you. You've already given up by the sounds of it, and you're growing resentful of the community. That's not a healthy combination.

Clearly, you're a prime example of one of these folks wearing the blinders. There are a few people who've commented on this post, they started around the same time you did. Are you calling them cheaters? They have thousands in their wallets, and I saw how it got there, and it certainly wasn't cheating. So now what?

Clearly you just want to argue things which aren't true. What's wrong with admitting you had a advantage over others because you got in early. Lots of people admit it. They discuss ways to solve the problem of minnows now that the platform has grown and it's hard to get attention.

I also find somethings that people write about not interesting, I still check them out, some I even still give a up vote to regardless if I find it interesting or not....because there are a few on here using the money to buy groceries, take care of kids and they need it much worse than any "quality post" or I need it. I even consider that I am more valuable as a blogger then a author to most, other than money that's what people are yearning the most for on here, attention, to feel like their contribution has been noticed, that their time hasn't been wasted. You on the other hand are more concerned with your bottom line then if a child is going to bed without enough to eat. You want to insult people's post well let me tell you that maybe, just maybe one out of ten post you make are funny enough to laugh about and just about any of the rest of them don't add any real contributing value at all, just lame attempts to be funny. But somehow I still care about you as a character, as a different type of personality, an interesting joe with a different twist but I don't count you out, insult you, try not to understand where you are coming from regardless we have different styles, I at least give you the benefit of the doubt. I read just about everything you put out there, I put the effort into it regardless if it comes out rewarding or interesting. I'll admit I've cut back on the amount of time I spend on you, if I am not into it in the first couple paragraphs I just leave it at that but I don't totally write you off, I may find a gem in you in the future, lot more credit then you give me.

I'd like to check out all the people who have posted here tonight but someone may need a up vote for groceries, rent, kids clothes and two I know a couple of your socks but I would have to scour some accounts to determine if there's more so no I won't be wasting my time.

Clearly you just want to argue things which aren't true. What's wrong with admitting you had a advantage over others because you got in early. Lots of people admit it. They discuss ways to solve the problem of minnows now that the platform has grown and it's hard to get attention.

It's hard to get attention everywhere. There are people on Youtube who've been working for 5 years and have yet to see a dime. There are people on Facebook with 5 followers after nearly ten years of posting.

There's no real problem to solve. People just need to learn what they're getting themselves into. All social media is hard. It's up to the individual to get noticed. Youtube doesn't hold the content producers hand so why should Steemit?

I also find somethings that people write about not interesting, I still check them out, some I even still give a up vote to regardless if I find it interesting or not....because there are a few on here using the money to buy groceries, take care of kids and they need it much worse than any "quality post" or I need it. I even consider that I am more valuable as a blogger then a author to most, other than money that's what people are yearning the most for on here, attention, to feel like their contribution has been noticed, that their time hasn't been wasted. You on the other hand are more concerned with your bottom line then if a child is going to bed without enough to eat.

Now there's some more bullshit. I just looked at the stats. You've given 80 upvotes to 43 accounts this past week. I've given out 240 votes to 102 different accounts and this has been a SLOW week for me. I've had those numbers much higher in the recent past. My votes are also worth something whereas yours are piss, so don't sit here pretending to be some hot shot when it's clear I give out more in a day than you can in a month. And like I said previously, I try.

I haven't spent a dime of what I've earned here since I started. I put in the work, I earned the rewards. There's no need to look down on me for that. If you were getting paid, should I look down on you for your efforts? How would you feel if I did that? Would it even make sense? Nope.

You want to insult people's post

I haven't insulted any posts. If you took it personally that I'm simply not interested in yours, that doesn't make them bad, they're just not for me. That shouldn't be a problem. I don't care if you don't like all of my posts. That's life. I can't expect to please everyone all of the time and I'm perfectly fine with that.

I'd like to check out all the people who have posted here tonight but someone may need a up vote for groceries, rent, kids clothes and two I know a couple of your socks but I would have to scour some accounts to determine if there's more so no I won't be wasting my time.

Here's some more bullshit. I only have one account here, and that's the truth.

I'm sick of your shit. Your little guilt trips and all of your lies. That shit shouldn't be leaking out of your ears like that but since you're so full of it, there's no place for it to go.

Leave me alone. I don't care if you don't come back. You've shown me your true colors, multiple times. You're a whiner. That's all, and it's bringing me down.

Have a good day.

I am not a whiner you are just one of those type of guys who like to control the narrative, they are a dime a dozen on here. I haven't been that busy on here this week, I spend a lot of time on my other blog, sure you don't get paid for it but I've never been into blogging for the money for one thing and the people are real, engaged and lively. There they don't expect you to fall in line, there one day you can agree to disagree and come back another day and try again to come back together. Here there's no lack of people willing to tell you to take a hike just because you don't agree with them and they want to call you whiny or disgruntled instead.

Just calling a spade a spade. You were whining, now you're backtracking; you're making up lies, trying to make me look bad.

Controlling the narrative? I'm attempting to explain my experience here but since you're too far deep into regurgitating the typical whiner narrative I've heard here thousands of times, always the same story, you've become a product of the environment you've created for yourself and now there's no coming back.

If you're not into blogging for money, why did you start out moaning and groaning about how you think the system works here? If you don't want money, don't expect to see any.

I prefer to work and get paid, yes, so I work towards that goal. So what. The place was created for that, much like how youtubers strive to eventually earn ad revenue. That's the life of a blogger/vlogger. I'm also an artist. People produce art for money, that's nothing new and it's quite normal.

Spend your time doing whatever makes you happy. I don't care.

Agree to disagree? There's a time and place for that. Unfortunately, you came here, started with the lies, and I'm under no obligation to respect you for that. That's the only way to lose respect with me and you've done a fine job of it.

Now, it would be nice if you could just go deal with that on your own time instead of wasting mine.

Thank you.

Try blaming yourself.

Damn, i do that every single day. Still not enough to get myself as good as i like.

what i observed here is that there are alot of people who joined this platform who are "not made to be content creators".. in a sense that they are here chasing quick bucks without knowing the brutal world that is being a content creator, the requirement to stare at the screen till the eys hurt and type till the hands get numb, the price of alienating everyone close to you and fade away from the outside world, the nights staying up till 1-2am doing nothing else than grind grind grind. If I upvoted myself everytime i saw a "I wrote a good post but no one upvoted me" comment, it would be enough to get myself lynched for self-voting.

These people wont last 2 days outside of Steemit.

It's funny because I myself am likely one of those person, well at least i dont think im entitled.

It one of the reason I decide spread out to other platforms.. While Steemit is the birthplace of my writing aspiration, I know i need get to other platforms if i wanna do this full time.

There are a few different types of people here, much like in life. I'm sure you've worked before so you know about the new guy who after working one week already wants a raise and thinks they can the run the place better than the boss. They don't last long, anywhere. Job to job and they take that attitude with them everywhere they go. Oh! And it's never their fault (but in reality, it's all their fault, but nobody can ever get through to them). Those people are actually quite common.

@nonameslefttouse Sad but true, hopefully they change for the better. Otherwise we'd have to eventually focus away to people who are more positive and uplifting. No use hanging around people who aren't growth centric.

If you think you are that good, why don't you try publishing on another platform, like youtube or even your own blog with your own domain. I doubt you will ever make even 15 cents, which is about the amount of money this whining comment made you ;)

P.S: Just saw you are a content thief. I will retract my upvote.

I am not a content thief. I've been approved by Steemcleaners who verified I have the authors permission to share her stuff because she does not want a Steemit account and I put all the money earned into her tip jar. Nice job trying to disparage me. You should really try reading more than a couple lines, your probably ones of those people who don't put any effort into genuinely reading what people write and give those one sentence comments acting like you did.

Furthermore I am a high reputation blogger on another site, probably why it took me less than a day to get approved for Steemit, that's the only reason I can think that I got approved so fast since everyone else complains it takes days to weeks.

Don't worry about nonames and me we go round every once in awhile, it's all good, tomorrows another day.

I will trust @informationwar that has been curating and upvoting you before you got caught. The fact that you haven't responded to their comment that I will quote is proof enough for me:

"

No new evidence has been presented to us, and I am going by what the content creator has said to me.

Regardless, even if they had permission they were directly copying and pasting someone else's work and wanting a reward for it and we don't want to reward people who do that. Patriot Retort can post their own stuff on Steemit, which they are not interested in doing and said so themselves to me(when I offered to make them an account).

We aren't going to reward someone who gets permission to copy and paste and keep 30% to 40% of the rewards. They admit they only send the SBD rewards.

Not revoking this."

source: https://steemit.com/informationwar/@sunlit7/another-traitor-joins-cable-news

Any road is a two way road. It also takes my time to post Dianny's stuff for her. She has lupus and in a FB reply to me when I was trying to get her to come here she replied maintaining her current website was all she could handle. I don't care how this guy misrepresents what went down between and I, what she meant by per se was I tried convincing her to come here, she wasn't quite getting what I was trying to tell her so I did a couple of her post, sent her the SBD in her tip jar and this is what she sent me:
Hi,
Okay, now your comments on the PR Facebook page make sense. Sorry. I can be dense.

Thank you for making this donation to Patriot Retort. I am very grateful — not just for the donation, but also for your support of the site. It has been humbling and exciting to watch how quickly it has grown over the last three years.

Thanks so much for introducing new readers to patriotretort.com.

With sincere gratitude,

Dianny
http://patriotretort.com

That is what per se meant, she wasn't getting what I was trying to say so yes it was in a round about way I came to posting her stuff. Here's another email after I sent her the next's month's SBD:

Hi,
Thank you again for putting through this donation to PatriotRetort.com. And for continuing to share the posts.

I really do appreciate it!

Dianny
http://patriotretort.com

Information wars was fully aware and gave approval for me to post Dianny's stuff, go read the first few things I posted and you will see how that came about when they questioned me. The current crap came about because the woman who heads Family Protection site got mad at me for a comment, she wanted to ban me from the site but since she can't she'd flag me. Then she went and got her buddy over at information wars and drug him into the fight. They spent two days trying to get me banned, sent me to steemcleaners to have my account removed. Steemcleaners verified I had permission. That case is closed, they failed, and it's just part of the guys on here vile attempt to try and censor people and make them fall in line and agree with everything they have to say, this site is full of people like that. Those are the people who really need to be removed from the site is order for it to thrive, not someone helping out someone who doesn't have the strength to maintain two websites. It's pretty sad when you think about it, information wars is about getting out information that is suppressed then they turn right around and try and suppress someone because they didn't like what I said to a friend. Disgusting. I've written a few things, maybe you should go read those, you won't find many more coming down the pipeline until I can, like others, up vote it to be worth my time.