This has happened twice now. @sneak hid the first post three days ago on February 21. I then made a post about the hiding of the other post by @sneak and included an explanation of how I remedied the situation. That explanation was to Steemit member @nationalpark. I also discussed this situation with a few other important Steemit members in the comment section of the two other posts. On February 24th @sneak hid the post addressing the explanation. He also hid my newest post which is a highly revealing condensed version of the large post that I put together to help better explain the verifiable (via their own Facebook pages) student actor aspects of the Parkland shooting event. That post also reveals some very important new material on other child actors.
All three posts are linked here -
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I believe Steem was created to resist censorship and most steemian don't like censorship. However, before you get my support, I would like to ask a few questions:
The photos are graphic, would you consider to add a warning at the top or use nsfw tag?
Do you have the copyrights of the photos your posted?
Are you sure you can post the photos of the minors? Do you have the permission of the parents of the minors?
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clarityofsignal (60) · 2 days ago
All images come from open Facebook pages that the individuals chose to post on the Internet themselves to their own Facebook pages. I actually acquired them from someone else who collaborates with me from time to time, thus, I believe they fall under fair use, particularly in view of the fact these are now well known figures currently under scrutiny in the public eye and who are being researched heavily by the general public.
They are boosting their own presence on major 'news' networks around the world, thus, one would figure also that they would expect such scrutiny or else restrict public viewing of their pages to prevent it. Another way to look at it is in reverse, would they hope to have their images seen by talent scouts for their acting ability as shown on their Facebook pages if it should further their acting careers? For example, I have compiled hundreds of images of the White Helmets in Syria (who are terrorists posing (acting) as rescuers). I have researched them thoroughly for the past two years.
I consider it a public service and for the good of humanity that I help reveal their al-Qaeda deception. Should I have asked them for permission to use their images? Would the terrorists have removed the images that they previously placed on their own open Facebook pages if I had ask them for their permission? You can see where this goes.
The fair use doctrine recognizes that rigid application of copyright laws in certain cases would be unfair or may inappropriately stifle creativity or stop people from creating original works, which would harm the public. So, the doctrine allows people to use someone else’s copyrighted work without permission in certain circumstances. Common examples include: criticism, commentary, news reporting, teaching, scholarship and research.
There is actually only one supposedly graphic photo amongst those used for the post and it is blurry and shot from a distance and shows a dark skinned woman who appears deceased on the floor (she is receiving no medical attention, thus the assumption). I left a message with that image that CNN's own website does not feature a dark skinned female amongst the 17 deceased victims they have posted images of online. Thus, its possible she is an actor also.
The rest of the images that appear to look graphic are actually images from the make up artist that administers their teen antigun advocates acting troupe. They are fake injuries made to look real, hence the reason I posted them. The nsfw tag is now attached, although I don't really think it is necessary. I am simply posting it to placate the few people that are concerned in regards to such.
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nationalpark (63)
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Thanks for the explanation
Comments from @sneak to myself on February 24, 2018-
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I flagged his post because baseless conspiracy nonsense like this doesn't deserve a cent in rewards. I couldn't care less about what is or isn't tagged NSFW. Shitposters (and apparently whiners who don't know what censorship is) shouldn't be earning here, in my sole personal opinion. I speak for no one but myself; any professional affiliation I may or may not have is irrelevant to my voting, as I vote with my own stake and no one else's.
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sneak (64)
· 6 hours ago
Downvotes aren't censorship, dipshit. Put your tinfoil hat back on.
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clarityofsignal (60) · 25 minutes ago
On such an important post it would have been professional of you to explain your desire to downvote the material. Incidentally, you haven't addressed the material and have instead resorted to demagoguery. Thus, your mentioning of tin foil hats says more about the person using the slur than the one it is directed against. Sad to see that one of the most important players at Steemit acts this way. You have also downvoted to hide a message from @nationalpark in this threads comment section.
On edit: I see you have tried to hide another one from fair public viewing. So now you have hidden two posts and the second one you just hid had no graphic images. The images in the post are of the students from Parkland who are verified via their own Facebook accounts as kids who are involved in the fields of acting, reporting and movie making. There are also make up artist images there of various types of fake wounds. I welcome your explanation as to why you hid that post and the other one before it. I would figure a Steemit developer would be very happy to have posts that receive over 3,000 views. Maybe I am wrong about that?
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dinodog1 (42)
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Well said, I am astonished at how well you kept your cool. There should be no reason for flat out name calling on this platform. It defintely says alot about the person posting the words.
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clarityofsignal (60) · 14 seconds ago
Thanks @dinodog1. Sometimes the censorship actually works in my favor, as it highlights the actions of the person conducting the censorship and helps to paint a larger picture based upon those actions. Thus, if someone so high up amongst the leadership at Steemit shows this type of behavior I consider it a community service, and a service to humanity, for me to help highlight that type of behavior. It may end up being addressed by other top tier players who have a stake in Steemit doing well as a free speech platform and they may decide to help change things for the better. Who knows? Its particularly important to highlight people who hide information, especially in this new age of information censorship and control.
One thing I am astutely aware of these days is that there is no room for emotions in geopolitics. My responses to @sneak certainly aren't emotional and I appreciate you pointing that out, on the other hand his responses are quite unprofessional for a lead developer on the platform. Thanks for your comment. Kind regards.
Anyone throwing around ad hominem attack and claiming 'tinfoil hat' slurs needs to back up the position with scientifically valid evidence and logic that addresses all points if they wish to avoid appearing bigoted and irrelevant. (note: tinfoil is archaic, all the cool kids use aluminium now).
Thanks @ura-soul. The original post he hid now has over 5,650 views. Thus, I think people are definitely interested in the material. I would hope a Steemit developer like @sneak would appreciate the eyes on the platform and the help of making it grow.
I get called a conspiracy theorist no matter how many times I prove my assertions.
Tin foil is useful. When I'm done wearing it I can use it to cook bacon on my grill or make a cardboard sword shiny. I can throw it at my dog or wrap food in it. So many uses outside keeping aliens and assholes from reading my thoughts...like they could stand the drama in my mind.
Seriously, to the three individuals flagging these posts, I hope your feelings feel better.
This.
Also, @sneak just landed on my shit list.
Mine too... just another tool
Mines stainless and manufactured in China!!
This sneak character has received a whole lot of Steem from Steemit the company. I see this as actual censorship by Steemit because of that. Sneak is obviously a part of Steemit the corporation. Just going through Sneaks wallet history proves this. These people are throwing around massive sums of cash like it is nothing.
From my observation flagging it to the point of near invisibility is effetively a form of suppression, maybe not censorsip.
What drew me to Steemit is that as an activist I am heavily censored everywhere I go and I was told this community was more of the "If I don't like it, I don't read it" type of place.
To me, censorship is removing it completely.
But a high power user actively flagging someone at full power can lead to the minnow feeling suppressed and leaving, which effectively censors.
He's allowed to do it, and it doesn't remove content.
It's the "WHY" he's doing it that bothers me.
Flagging things you disagree with, particularly when you claim they are lies without being able to prove the null hypothesis, is arrogant and corrosive.
He should be publicly shamed more often for this. First I've heard of it.
The null hypothesis does not mean that we accept lies at face value; in fact quite the opposite. The burden of proof lies (ha) on the liar, to prove their statements. In this case, the liar cannot, because they are a liar and their statements are false.
You have it backwards.
Well, in this specific situation, he certainly provided more evidence (conjecture or otherwise) than you did, hence my 'null hypothesis' statement.
Denouncing someone as a tinfoil conspiracy theorist is not an argument, nor is calling someone a liar off-hand for believing something you deem unbelievable.
This is the foundation of freedom of speech, something I would hope would be apparent working with an organization like Steemit, Inc. Otherwise, you end up with centralized arbiters of truth acting as judge, jury, and executioner for all things related to objective reporting of events.
In your instinctive reaction, you a) assert the individual is a liar, b) claim they told a lie, and c) assert that because he is a liar and has told a lie, he is unable to prove his statement. This is circular reasoning and allows for no discussion because YOU have placed yourself in the position of 'truth arbiter' without even attempting to prove your assertions. YOU have become judge, jury, and executioner of the Truth -- a title I would loathe to accept.
You hit the nail on the head dude.
Followed
Suppressing information is censoring information. It is not necessary to utterly erase the information to censor it.
Consider also that @blacklist-a has now been invoked on your account. It seems that many different ways of skinning your cat have been undertaken now. Apparently the thin-skinned can't bear for anyone to have what they don't.
I did what I could to make your comment visible, but it was beyond my ability.
Thanks!
Just a little wallet history is all it takes to see that Al Gore is really the one that invented Steemit just like he invented the Internet.
It's not really "cash" is it?
It is when it leaves Steem and goes into your bank account.
I've never experienced that. :) Tax man scares me to much. lol
Note that flagging to invisibility is undeniably suppression, and thus is, by definition, censorship, @sneak.
Congratulations you have been flagged to almost invisibility.
Thank god(insert any steemit whale name here) it is not completely invisible.
Do you know what it takes to get flagged into Oblivion?
Flagging, isn't it more like the school bully pushing you down on the floor? Doesn't really hurt you but shows everyone what an ass he is?
I follow @skeptic because he inspires me. He was flagged into negative rep multiple times by @berniesanders, and refused to just give up. His rep is now almost as high as mine.
@berniesanders, OTOH, is still at -17 IIRC, since @dan gave him a little taste of his own medicine.
I am sooooo gonna be flagged into the neg! I name names, and this invokes the flags.
But, I refuse to pussyfoot around. I reckon this conversation involves those particular individuals, regardless of whether they like it or not, so I don't shy away from the consequences of speaking plainly and forthrightly.
You are the kind of man that makes this world tolerable!
I will be your friend even when I disagree with you. But here I stand with you support you and agree!
There is way too much bullying on Steemit by people that should take the higher road.
Isn't it better to teach the rest of us how to act by example.
Time to do as I do not do as I say.
We must never stoop to their methods of name calling and character assassination. That is exactly why we are on Steemit to begin with to get away from that mainstream media BS.
I am pretty sure this is a CIA/NSA owned and controlled site. Everything is the same here and the SJW have the biggest voice.
BTW Berniesanders can just upvote himself right back to 68 in about one day. He has so many accounts. If you look at what happened it is still Haejin and his other accounts attacking Bernie. Dan only attacks @ned
Kinda like the Trump stripper /porn stories distracting us from the clinton and fbi crimes.
There must be some real crimes going on here and this BS is to keep us all distracted.
LOL The @haejin thing is relatively recent. the @dan thing was some months ago.
I'm pretty sure the CIA has it's tentacles in every orifice it can reach. Despite that, I note the Steem blockchain makes the data available to the public, and that is perhaps the greatest threat to the CIA that the world has ever devised.
Right now blackmail and brownstone ops, as well as the Steele dossier, are possible to use to control public policy because the data isn't available to the public. Secrets you keep that others know give them power over you, including lies like the Steele dossier.
When our 'public servants' are surveilled AND that data is available on the blockchain, there'll be no more Dennis Hasterts riding the blackmail train to 3rd in line to the presidency, because people wouldn't have elected him to powerful public office knowing he was a kiddy diddler, as the CIA certainly did.
Steemit and the blockchain is the greatest threat to blackmailers the world has ever known.
I like your style, good sir.
Number of accounts don't much matter, its all about that Steem Power.
Good thing then that it's impossible to make a post invisible by flagging.
Well, you just made my comment invisible. Dunno why. All it said was:
Too bad you're not better acquainted with veracity. You'd see just how well you proved my point.
Seriously? You sicced @blacklist-a on me for that?
Skin is a thing. It's really good to have on your butt, cuz it keeps it from getting hurt.
followed ;)
No but it certainly makes it LESS-visible, which is closer to 'invisible' than 'visible' on the color spectrum.
@sneak -- the more I read posts from you, the more convinced I am that you would have been one of the ones gleefully tossing books into a bonfire before digital text existed.
Perhaps you should get a job at Twitter or Facebook instead?
Good thing indeed.
Whatever is up, they sure as hell underestimated the attention these flaggings would bring your posts.
Good work man. Followed you as I am eager to build my list of actual freethinkers. If we are ever to find the catch on this platform, we can only do it if we stick together.
Quite true. The main post has now surpassed 15,000 views in 5 days.
That's the ticket! Use their censorship to expose their hoax!
The post is now up to 30,000 views and still getting eyes on. @sneaks method of hiding important highly revealing material has definitely backfired on him.
The proximity to Ned and the Steemit devs is somewhat troubling.
Incidentally I stumbled upon this interview yesterday, good chance to feel the guy.
https://steemit.com/steemit/@ruwan/i-filmed-this-video-of-ned-pkattera-and-sneak-talking-about-the-smts-and-the-future-of-steemit
I hope his flagging was a personal choice due to his worldview, and not serving a greater agenda. If this was due to agenda, we may have a big problem on our hands in reference to Steemit's objectivity. I pray I'm wrong and sneak just can't fathom that these events are staged. Anybody who denies false flags and staged events despite the massive amounts of evidence generally means well, wanting to protect other people from "fake news" because they cannot leave their own frame of reference.
I hope the post gathers 100 k more.
It is one of two major WTF moments lately in regards to core Steemit people acting in a most eyebrow-raising way. The other was of course the fallout between dan and ned.
Judging from his behavior I think its likely a personal choice. It is still highly unprofessional and disappointing the way he has behaved, just the same. Its also cause for concern when any higher up in an organization that is supposedly built upon the concept of promoting free speech chooses to act in such a manner. The hide feature, as used by heavy hitters, is essentially a form of soft censorship regardless of what @sneak tries to state otherwise. @valued-customer's posts in this thread sum it all up quite well.
I'd also like to thank @haejin. I was prepared to pay the price for my comments, as I am incapable of doing much to counter flags from @sneak and @bloom. @haejin stepped in and took care of that, and I appreciate it very much!
Seems as if there are many people on Steemit so jacked up about the earning rewards that they tend to overlook the fact that some people post for the benifit of all. @clarityofsignal I may not agree with or believe anything you post, but I sure want to see it. It is up to me to do my own research and arrive at my own conclusions about the information in your posts. It is not my job to flag you in order to protect the community. Yes there needs to be some basic guidlines for governance on the platform. Steemit is not perfect in this regard I think most people would agree. Anyway, keep up the good work, keep posting. If you enjoy social experiments, I think Steemit is a great example. In my opinion, the payout rewards which lead to these flagging wars, often show us a less desireable side of our human nature.
This is a basic problem that reduces every aspect of society to profiteering. Society is much more than an economy, and there are far more profitable things than profit. Many Steemit users exemplify this. Fortunately, there's only so much harm such profiteers can do on a social media platform. Some people whore out their mothers for cash.
Kinda hard to get to that level of inhumanity on a blog. Sooner or later, someone'll figger it out tho.
Thanks!
It's cooperation that will bring them down. They've lost control of the narrative and have gone into full damage control mode... it's great to watch and even greater to be a part of...
The good thing is the tighter they try to clamp down, the tighter the people band together
Without cooperation on our side that is able to overwhelm the sheep that just do as they're told, it won't save us against what's coming.
@freebornangel recently posted about China's total surveillance state, and social control system, that changes the ring on your phone when you call, or are called by, one the the blacklisted. Folks on that list can't buy plane tickets, for example.
@maxigan and @x22reports have both predicted the power shifting to the east globally, to China. The EU is now drafting all kinds of laws against 'fake news', and Whatsapp, owned by Fakebook is essentially doing what China does on phones with material Fakebook, the owner of Whatsapp, doesn't like.
They say it's always darkest before the dawn. Let's hope dawn approaches soon, because they're coming for us, too. @benswann just came on Steemit after going dark for a year. He also just got hit with a large flag. I saw it on the list of the most heavily flagged Steemers I turned out to be on and was notified of a mention by Gina.
That was interesting!
While I hope it's about to dawn a new day of freedom and freedom of speech globally, I fear the dark night of disinformation is yet sucking more of the light of truth from out of our sight.
We'll have to be watchful. In Honduras right now, US trained police are rounding up protesters after electoral hyjinx there.
The enemedia won't televise the counter-revolution. We'll have to have each other's backs.
Thanks!
Thanks @dinodog1. When this situation first occurred the other day I specified that I would transfer all cryptocurrency derived from those posts to @PatrickLancaster who I know as a friend and does charity work for affected kids and families in the breakaway regions of East Ukraine. That declaration still stand for this post as well. I have never been about the money, although I am also not against it. I do what I do simply because I believe humanity deserves better than what we are getting from our current world 'leaders' who are deceptive assholes that are enriching themselves from war and surveillance/control over the rest of us.
I hope more people see my example and take similar action to bring the truth to light as best they can. My personal view is that humanity needs an evolution, not a revolution. I think we can do this simply by continuing to share important information and finding ways to work around the elites mainstream media wall of propaganda, censorship and deception that is placed in front of us. That is a challenge that I gladly accept. Kind regards for looking at the material even if you may disagree with it. I don't mind and I hope it is simply taken into consideration by discerning, fair-minded people.
Amen, by the way I followed Patrick because of your posts. Humanity deserves better. In all my travels all over the world I learned we have more in common with each other than we believe. The governments create the majority of the human suffering and there seems to be a few select people controlling them. Hopefully one day we can evolve.
Well stated.
That is one of the most profound statements I have been fortunate enough to read.
Thanks!
Thank you for all your lengthy comments addressing this situation above. Great work.
Lucky for you (and him, I guess), you're able to do that no matter how many flags he receives. In that capacity, I'm not sure what anyone is complaining about.
That is one huge bonus to Steemit. to be able to see what others flag and be the judge yourself.
Just keep reposting and we will support it. There is nothing offensive about this. It's like calling an investigator a conspiracy theorist for looking into a murder.
Thanks @palikari Will do.
Yep, just resorting to ad hominem attacks
It's really unfortunate that a subject like this where everybody needs to hear the other side of the story is being blocked and for no good reason. There are so many other stories coming out now punching holes in what the media's narrative. The story is just another attempt at gaining control over the people through fear. I hope this becomes apparent sooner than later.
Unbelievable
And sadly unprofessional.
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STOPSometimes wealthy Steemians will wage their influence in order to stymie access to information that they don't agree with. Apparently, this nasty little ingredient called flagging was baked into the Steemit cake a long time ago. I call it soft-censorship. [read on..]
I wanna say nice job.
I am sorry to see you being abused by a member of steemit.
I am just a minnow and can't give much help. but I have resteemed and upvoted to help mitigate the action of one that took away the actions and rewards of many.
I find it a lot easier and less stressful to ignore content I do not like,agree with,or if I have an issue with someone to just block them..
If I am going to flag someone it would have to be a community action,working with the consensus of community good.
I find the actions of these killer whale bad for the platform,they are one person and act as Gods. What you going to do flag me back,hahahaa....I didn't hurt you...I just made your dream smaller...
That's imho.
Now do have get flagged for it. have to start at a neg. rep. in the morning
Seen it happen.
But I could not sit by ,and not say, do something.
Namaste
Hello! Thank you so much for this post! This @sneak character has been flagging my work as well on the Parkland Shooting Hoax. My work is now being hidden from view: https://steemit.com/davidhogg/@fakenewsreport/david-hogg-memes-davidhoggmemes
Here's the flags on that post:
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This is an attack on #FreedomofSpeech and should NOT be acceptable! We have already lost all our work and channels on youtube... now we have these pukes on #Steemit using similar tactics!
Thanks - Re-steemed!
Here's my steemit article on this (video included)
https://steemit.com/steemit/@fakenewsreport/steemit-posts-are-being-flagged-and-censored-florida-shooting-hoax-coverup
Thanks for this @fakenewsreport. Good to see your post which brings the actions of @sneak more into the light. If he thinks he's gonna discourage folks by acting as such he is sadly mistaken and I will be continuing to make sure I place solid highly revealing information in remarks to his rude comments and other posts I will make on his downvotes.
This school event at Parkland looks to me like not so much a gun grab but more of a control grab and an excuse by the PTB and their social media giants for a purge of important truth channels. Seems like they are using it to try to contain other lies and deceptions. They are stacking their chaos on top of chaos in order to create more confusion and take more control over the citizenry's perceptions of reality. I believe it is still continuing to fail in that regard. People aren't really buying it.
@sneak seems to be attempting to lead that shut down of truth seekers here at Steemit. Alas, its the block chain and all he can do is a hide with his huge voting power, but that behavior can also backfire and be used against him. There are many of us who aren't here for the money so much as the ability to post freely without censorship, so maybe he underestimates that aspect. I consider this a battle worth fighting for, and gladly take up the challenge as I strongly dislike opinionated controllers who attempt to restrict the free flow of information from others.
A big thanks to you for doing a bit of digging on @sneak so people can see him for what he really is. I'll add your link to my other post so more people can see what is going on.
@clarityofsignal are you familiar with @aggroed ? I think he would have some perspective on your situation. I would trust his judgement on the matter if he cares to comment. Great source to follow here!
Thanks @dinodog1. I am familiar with them and enjoy their posts.
@clarityofsignal.... just in case you haven't seen the following it is worth the read...
http://www.ini-world-report.org/2018/02/24/11296/
I haven't read all of your material to catch up so I don't know if the details covered there are something you were aware of and already wrote about or not.
Reading now. Thanks for the link @dwinblood
Look
Go here if you want to see another whole level of this censorship.
You better not think, believe or write anything these demons don't like!
Thank for your work, @clarityofsignal. I must admit that the behavior of @sneak has made me lose all confidence in Steemit.
There is an upside which still gives me confidence in the platform. @Onceuponatime and others are proof of that. They came to the rescue as soon as they heard about it and made the post visible again via their huge voting power. I think things like this can help Steemit develop and make the platform better for the free flow of information in the future. Kind regards.
Interesting your post
Thanks for sharing @clarityofsignal.
Hi, I have followed you, you please vote me more
@morphonios
Downvoted for multiple demonstrably false statements. Keep spreading lies whilst using my name, keep getting flagged. Your call.
Can you point to one of the demonstrably false statements?
You have every right to downvote, if it's what you choose to do. However, have you considered that some people may see it as a violation of the non-aggression principle? People work really hard on this platform to get creative, and generate content that they think others might find valuable.
For example clarity's previous post was sitting at a value of approximately 50 before you gave it a good smack with your whamhammer; then for a short time, the value was at zero. How do you think that makes people feel?
How would you feel if open-minded whales who sided with clarity began a downvoting campaign against your posts, and effectively nullified the upvote efforts of dozens if not hundreds of people who found them beneficial? How would you feel if in real life people could cancel your paycheck?
Downvoting is part of the game for now, but it's my contention that it spiritually violates the non-aggression principle, and that people have the right to defend themselves. This type of thing is bound to lead to organized downvoting wars.
When people realize that downvoting is soft-censorship, or realize that downvoting might be a covert steemit tax on value, then they will simply abandon the platform.
I encourage you to use your dev power to change the platform, for the good. Keep downvoting, but detach the value debit, and soft-censorship. I can see down this road, and in my opinion downvoting will lead to the end of Steemit.
P.S. If you think that someone is being demonstrably false, or spreading propaganda, why not simply address them in the comments instead of initiating aggressive action? All of the energies being devoted to downvoting wars steals from your creative powers, and creates enemies. It's more beneficial to disagree in comments and tell people why you disagree. The thing that I love about Steemit, is that it challenges me to get creative. I can see how getting downvoted would make people not only upset, but also disgusted with the platform.
Very well stated...
You seem to be confused. The amount of money listed under a post is not yours. It is an estimate of the payout given the votes up until that point in time. To regard that as your own paycheck is ridiculous.
It’s not yours until all the votes are counted, at payout time.
Just like an election, you don’t get to claim what you believe to be yours until everyone who cares to vote has done so.
Flagging can never take anything away from you.
I missed the part where you point to one of his "demonstrably false statements".
I notice that your downvotes also generate downvotes from @blacklist-a.
Two simple questions for you:
Where's that steemit judge jury and executioner photo when ya need it. :D
No you didn't, you're just being passive-aggressive.
You've got a really bad attitude, @sneak
Yeah it denies him nothing except the rewards bestowed to the author by others, which he can use to buy bandwith.
The people of steemit obviously agree with him. One might be wise not to anger the giant...
How about a comprimise? Remove the flag but don't apologize. Then toughen up a little. It's just words. From time to time we all fall on our faces. No biggie.
Write a retort. Engage him in debate. But don't flag needlessly. That's a garbage tactic.
If you think downvoting a post on the internet is a violation of the NAP, then you have a lot more reading to do, and we have nothing further to discuss.
"If you think downvoting a post on the internet is a violation of the NAP, then you have a lot more reading to do, and we have nothing further to discuss. - sneak"I called it a spiritual violation of the NAP. You performed an action that resulted in a type of soft-censorship. Not only that, had you not performed that action, those potential rewards that were amassing would not have been diverted back to the reward pool.
Think of it this way, I could legally sleep with your girlfriend, but it wouldn't be morally right. Yes, technically I did nothing illegal, but the metaphysics of those types of actions are very harmful.
Legally, the U.S. government could drain every bank account in the United States and pay it all back to the Federal Reserve Bank. The reason they can do this, is because every FRN on the planet has been loaned into existence by the Fed. All of the money belongs to them, so they can take it all back whenever they want.
However, the moral implications, and the consequences of those kinds of actions would be devastating. Basically, you’re fucking up people's experience, and although it might not be censorship in the technical sense, 95% of the people who use the platform are going to internalize and perceive your actions as both theft, and censorship.
Side note: I noticed when you click the flag button, the parameters (or guidelines) for flagging are no longer present. When did that change? Or do they only show that once?
Also, did you find one of Clarity's demonstrably false statements yet? I think it's quite possible that you are abusing the spirit of the flagging tool. End result, if too many people engage in this type of behavior, people will see Steemit as a platform that engages in censorship, and the platform will bleed out just like all the others are.
So you Devs need to figure it out, cause we're on top of it. All of the intricacies with respect to the technicality of whether or not it's theft, or whether or not it's censorship isn't going to change the perceptions that you impress on people when the platform allows for things that so closely resemble theft, and censorship.
At some point, when it reaches extremes people will simply-and-universally boycott out of disgust. I don't want to see that happen, and I'm sure that nobody else does either.
That's my two cents, take it, leave it, flag it, stick it in your pipe and smoke it. Do what you do.
I'd advise you to try not awaken the giant, but I think you already have. The Streisand effect had already taken hold, and even if you bury this comment. It's going to echo thunderously throughout the platform!
I am the butterfly today!
Yes, everyone is going to know you're a conspiracy theory whackjob, shaming children who just watched their friends get murdered. I can't wait until steemit has enough sane people with stake on it to flag all you tinfoil hat nonsense peddlers to zero forever.
It's absolutely disgusting to see some of the idiocy that earns on this platform. Thank fuck it's only because of a handful of early adopters who are the sole cause of it. Soon they'll be outnumbered by well-staked people who have two brain cells to rub together, and you and your chicken little ilk will stop earning and go back to whatever butthole of the internet you used to post your chemtrail and antivax and crisis actor and pizzagate rubbish before you came here.
You've checked all the boxes with that one. Demagoguery (name calling), Conflation of issues (lumping into categories), extreme vitriol and hatred to incite frustration, blatant use of children, desire to control ideas on platform through mass thinking.
Recognizing the Enemy of Truth: Cryptome’s Guide To Forum Spies – GCHQ and COINTELPRO Disruption Techniques
https://clarityofsignal.com/2017/05/05/recognizing-the-enemy-of-truth-cryptomes-guide-to-forum-spies-gchq-and-cointelpro-disruption-techniques/
@sneak you said that I was: "shaming children who just watched their friends get murdered"
PROVE YOUR CLAIM!
Your gas-lighting attempts mean nothing on this platform! Is it standard practice for Steemit developers to engage in slanderous accusations?
I love Steemit! I particularly love that wallets are publicly auditable, because it shows associations that would otherwise be hidden, such as between you, @blacklist-a, and @bloom.
It reveals a desperate attempt to conceal information that challenges the status quo, and that you are conspirators losing that fight.
You seem to be wholly dependent on the idea that your little stake is all it takes to change the perception of reality to what supports your particular derangement. This is further revealed by your failure to provide any debate other than flags and ad hominems. @bloom is worse. He doesn't even dare ad hominems, because that would open him up to flags, and demonstrate just how little support he actually has in the community.
It's why he has to be funded off chain. The only reason you have any cause to feel justified in your statements is your stake.
That is ephemeral, illusory, and worse for you, temporary. I really can't think of any less substantial support for ideas than the person promoting them has a stake.
You really should join @bloom in completely hiding your vitriol behind flags alone, rather than revealing the insubstantial nature of your views with posting actual words, if you want to be most effective in your attempts to censor.
It leaves a smaller window for folks to examine what you're trying to achieve.
Actually, you should either put up or shut up about the facts you're trying to twist, and since you've demonstrated you have no reason behind your flags, utterly failing to point out a single fact other than your complete subservience to propaganda, it's obvious that flags are all you have; your stake is all you can rely on to preserve your deranged world.
I don't envy you the cognitive dissonance that's going to hit you, someday.
It'll be a good thing in retrospect, after you've absorbed the reality it reveals, but it'll be difficult to ride out, given the depth of your hostility to facts and debate.
Good luck with that.
@sneak whatever happened to scrolling past? Don't be so thin skinned!
how the fuck do you even "downvote." I only see flags...
They are one in the same.
oh thx, i c the slider under the flag option now lol!! Not intending to ever use it btw
@sneak I may not agree with your flagging. But it is within your right to do it. I am personally grateful that the proverbial paper trail is left in Steemit. I am very curious as to what you described "multiple demonstrably false statements." Would you care to elaborate on even one of those if not multiple as you have claimed? I don't have stake in this either way, but if you have proof that @clarityofsignal has lied or fabricated claims it would vindicate your actions before all of us.
If you refuse to elaborate on your accusations logic would force us to assume that you rather than him/her are the one making "demonstrably false statements." So please just tell us what they are. I'm really not trying to call you out, and I am choosing my words carefully. I don't want to earn the wrath of others, but if there are "demonstrably false statements" please by all means demonstrate them. That way we will not be lead astray with false information. If you or your buddies flag my comment everyone will just assume that you are unable to back up your statements.
I suppose you could ignore it and pretend you never saw it, that would also allow you to save face. But personally I would rather you just give us your proof. That way we can all go about our merry way enlightened by this whole situation. I guess I'm old school and like people to back up the words they speak. I personally will do this and state my case, or I will admit that I spoke out of turn. Please be a man of honor, and grant us one of these.
No.
Which is it? Is it my right to flag however I want, or do I require your approval and/or vindication to downvote lies?
Thank you, for the reply.
By every means you can vote however you please. No ones permission is needed. I merely meant vindication by it's definition.
You are not required to back up your claim if you choose not to. But just as anyone can vote or flag who they please, others are free to think what they will of those actions. Giving evidence in support of their case would vindicate these actions in the minds of others.
I'm not a fan of compelling others to do things outside of their will.
I thank you for your frankness and honesty. I hope you have a wonderful day.
What if it's not lies?