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RE: Haven't talked to @keys-defender closely but THIS is the problem - Us ...

in DBuzz4 years ago

I have had some pretty horrible experiences in terms of what would be acceptable.

  • I was called low trash, a scammer and racist remarks were even direct at our Devs



Posted via D.BuzzIt was never posted on-chain by @hivewatchers or any of the "abuse fighters" it was kept private

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@chrisrice That's unfortunate and I can't comment to that. PS. Maybe it was @jaguar.force? I know he was over the line sometimes.. 😌

Just try to moderate your community appropriately and they should be fine with your project.

@chrisrice

I was called low trash, a scammer and racist remarks were even direct at our Devs

These are utter lies. I will not tolerate this.

Provide evidence that I have ever directed such remarks towards you or your "devs".
Please post her the screenshots of these conversations!!!

You were quick to accuse me of lying @logic, and that's how quick you accuse others of lying, being scammers and ill-intended plageriasts.

  • You are NOT qualified to represent the #HIVE community from a position of authority.



Posted via D.BuzzTAG: @keys-defender @snacky @starkers @theycallmedan

Off-chain like where? Liar

Provide evidence. I want to see the screenshots to prove this:

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You are a liar and I call you for what you are.
Like I said. I will not tolerate smearing lies.

Btw, I hadn't asked yet.

  • Have you tried our frontend?



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Ask @guiltyparties, and the other people who were there.

  • @keys-defender tagged the person it was, who lost support after his dealings with our team

All of it was off-chain, and you + him communicate to users in a similar way

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Well, as a matter of fact he has been banned by their discord. The action of a single user does not represent the whole team.

Yeah, and he was banned shortly after my teams encouter with him, check the dates

  • @logic isn't as bad as him but is not good with people either IMO

People shouldn't be required to publish apologies on their blog, when in may cases, its just a misunderstanding.



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walden/jaguar.force HAS NEVER BEEN PART OF STEEMCLEANERS OR HIVEWATCHERS!!!

#GuiltyParties introduced me to him, and GP is the head of HW.

  • I think highly of GP, I just don't think he has the best team.

And are you against copy&pasting, spamming, farming and scamming in principle?

I have all the records of what I said to you. I was right.

You are free to publish it all on https://nextblog.d.buzz by using a Desktop version.

  • That long-form aspect is still in a pre-Alpha stage but we will improve it.
  1. Btw, how have you been this last while?



  2. Posted via D.BuzzI don't think you are fit to moderate content on #HIVE but . .

Ummm, we are a censorship resistany Web 3 Dapp.

  • Not one of the centralized apps that you'll notice are always used to back am agenda

Our agenda is free speech, nothing else, and we only remove links/images of:

  1. Blatant Scams
  2. Child Porn
  3. Phishing

And . . .

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 4 years ago (edited) 

And we'll create decentralized tools for users to moderate what THEY do and don't want to see for themselves.



Posted via D.BuzzIt's called decentralization, vs. a centralized nut job like @logic / @hivewatchers telling people what is good and bad content.

They already can mute accounts or follow the decentralized ban lists

Yeah, meaning there is no need for us to censor.

  • Decentralized Blacklists/Mutelists roll out tomorrow on D.Buzz



Posted via D.BuzzApparently @hivewatchers wants us to do more to police @dbuzz users but like I said, we only take action on purely blackhat abuse, not white or even dark grey.

what did you create?, your dbuzz shit still cant do shit after 7 months

  1. It takes time since we are building everything from scratch, we are not just a fork and are self-funded

  2. Do you have a website or an online project you built I can compare it to?

  3. The #6 social Dapp in the world


    Posted via D.Buzz https://www.stateofthedapps.com/rankings/category/social

I think that if you add plagiarism you’ll be on the same page of the “watchers”

Not so sure about that .... The "watchers" have a very twisted logic about "plagiarism"

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Yeah, not really.

  • Do you know they were harrassing one of our users for "stealing a meme".

But what are memes created for? Their created for sharing!

  • They have also targeted posts from owners who should be the one's to represent their own content, not HW.

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I remember seeing another user whose posts and comments were down voted just because he voted on a meme he thought was funny (these memes were considered to be "plagiarised" ).

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Yeah, BS like that shows that @hivewatchers is not geared toward freedom but authoritarianism.

  1. @hivewatchers = Incompetent
  2. @logic = Incompetent


  3. Posted via D.Buzz@guiltyparties = Competent when representing himself, but incompetent for using @logic as the front & center contact person

unfair practice on hive.

Posted via D.Buzzi 100% agree with you on 1. and 2. .... but imo @guiltyparties is approachable and much nicer towards his fellow hivers. He as himself would not create an

They targeted my mother for sharing her faith on chain with citation! I look forward to all dapps removing support for their bullshit lists.


I gave it a quick thought and I think you could improve the "spammy" reputation of your project having it automatically set the posts max payout based on the length of the "tweet":
ie.@chrisrice

  • posts with length below a certain min threshold1 (eg. 250 characters) automatically deny payout
  • posts with length above the threshold1 and below threshold2 (eg. 500 characters) have max payout of X (eg. $1 ?)
  • etc (more thresholds or just no limits above threshold2)

And no, we don't have a "spammy reputation" we have a good one minus the @hivewatchers tyrant.

  • At least privately via direct message, @guiltyparties has never called us a spam app.



Posted via D.BuzzIt was only @logic, the autoritarian behind @hivewatchers.

We have skin in the game and a lot of it.

  • @hivewatchers has none or to put it another way, their skin in the game is that they remain the "Watchers" of HIVE.

Our skin in the game is building an amazing use case, that adds value and makes our large investment worth it.

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I disagree that there should be any correlation between post size and max accepted value.

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Wow, that does sound like an idea and we will likely impliment it.

  • But it's not much of an issue since if you notice, super short Buzz's usually don't earn much anyways

We have a goos curatoe, not perfect since no one is, but good.

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@chrisrice I think that your pending release of blacklists and applying that scaled max_payout for text-only posts would calm down everyone.

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Maybe I can even throw in the same for one dbuzz top creator every month.@christice as (non-elected) mediator between the 2 parts. I propose that if you apply the max_payout suggestion above, I will support the @dbuzz account adding it to my database so that @marcocasario will give it a $ 0.20 upvote every day.

No one here is against freedom of speech, the only issue is monetization of low quality or illegitimate content 👍


@chrisrice Addition: if you also automatically refuse payout in the dbuzz app for posts containing only one picture and max 100 characters I’ll increase the amount of dbuzz top accounts supported by @marcocasario to 4 every month. (All accounts voted by @marcocasario get also reblogged)

At least your trending page won't look like this:

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Is that really worth a dollar? Debatable.

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Or like this....

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Everything under the sun is debatable.

  • As our userbase increases the rewards per Buzz will decrease, give us time to onboard users and finish the Dapp.



Posted via D.Buzz@dbuzz has 350,000 HP so we don't necessarily need support in that respect it's kind, but the issue is the mismanagement ofHHW

give us time to onboard users and finish the Dapp.

Understood. Maybe just don’t get them used to get $ 1 for 10 words though..

As our userbase increases the rewards per Buzz will decrease

Not necessarily. More users = more delegations and upvotes.

Meanwhile, many authors earn $30 - $60 USD per post.

  • It's long-form, but it's not always spread among new members and new talent as much as the same authors are earning those high amounts, day after day

Still a good system, but pennies are being argued over vs. dollars

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They do but (hopefully) most of them worked hard to get known and to get their content appreciated.
I know it’s just pennies but I think the argument of the “Hive watchers” is that your system could be abused by farmers and wouldn’t be easy to detect and control.
That could get to significant bucks removed from the pool (and therefore other users).

My point of view is that as far as those short tweets are contained within a community it’s not spam.

Okay, I can see the role being valuable but it doesn't mean they are doing a good job at it.

  • Governments around the world talk about keeping people safe, which would be good, but they are hitting innocent protestors in the head in the name of it



Posted via D.Buzz@hivewatchers is similar IMO

Also, let the #FreeMarket decide.

  • If we provide a good use case, and onboard the masses, we win.

And our six figure investment in terms of USD results in success, if not, we lose.



  • Posted via D.BuzzWhy do we need @hivewatchers intervening and saying whatbis destined to succeed or fail?

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@dbuzz has a very solid reputation.