Thank you!! @movingman Water has a Danged Memory!!

in #water7 years ago

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=ILSyt_Hhbjg

Water is essential to all life but yet we know very little about it. Occasionally something pops up like the mad genius @movingman referencing a video where water remembers what it sees. With a little teamwork we found it. Check this crazy shit out and drop a comment on a weird fact you know about water!

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I know water always finds it level & never runs up hill

Yes! Water levels are super useful tools in construction. Sometimes when I was learning how to hang pipe we were having a devil of a time deciding how to measure certain complicated runs.

Then I remembered learning about water levels from my grandfather as a kid. Problems solved, my supervisors minds blown.

Thanks @ceattlestretch

Water is also a great tool to understand motion. It will always tell you if the container is in motion, no matter how big or small

What about the ocean? I reckon so though..... We have tides and swells, winds and storms which are all due in part to the motion of the earth.

Maybe, I’ve been looking for proof of the supposed spin & curve for quite awhile. Haven’t found any yet

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=wDOAZRzyfwo

Could the earth be flat after all?

I'm from the arctic Norway, we have midnight sun and the polar star is almost directly above our heads. Now I've moved a bit south and there is no midnight sun and the polar star is clearly on the north of the sky. Such a simple observation is very trivially explained with the round earth theory, and very hard to explain with a flat earth theory.

Moving north & moving slower rotationally is a giant problem. As are rivers on a spinning ball & airplanes..... so many contradictions with a curved spinning ball & reality

I actually spent ten minutes of my life watching this now. That's ten minutes I'll never get back.

The question in the video is ... a plane is travelling from the equator, across the north pole and down on the other side of the planet during 24 hours. In the beginning of the trip, the plane will move with the spin of the planet and have much more speed than what it has over the north pole. What is causing the plane to slow down, and what is causing it to speed up again when going down on the other side? Also, what causes the plane to keep the curvature of the earth, and not fly out into space? Is the pilot constantly actively steering the plane down to follow the curvature and to the left to follow with the earths rotation?

The obvious answers are:

  • the plane is moving relatively to the atmosphere, and the atmosphere is following the earths rotation (due to friction), so it's the atmosphere that is "breaking" and "speeding" the airplane.
  • Gravity and atmosphere may seem like the two obvious answers to why the plane will follow the curvature and not fly out into space.

However, the questions "does the pilot actively need to steer to the left and down" seems outright silly from a practical point of view. A blindfolded person walking, steering a boat or (god forbid!) steering an airplane will not be able to steer straight for long, probably it won't take more than some few minutes before the person has done a 360 degree turn. A person or an autopilot navigating a plane or a ship has to constantly counter winds, waves, turbulence and currents - even the rotational direction of the propellor. A 360 degree turn during 24 hours? That's really a negligible adjustment. Same goes with the height and pitch of the airplane, it has to be trimmed and adjusted all the time. A 180 degrees change in pitch during 24 hours is also quite negligible.

"I've been playing pretty much flight simulators" - that's about the funniest "argument by authority" I've seen. :-)

The lack of difference in effect traveling in each direction & at different speeds along the variably rotating globe make it unbelievable to my logic & would require a huge leap of faith on my part to believe it. There are obvious standard answers to these questions, but they are unbelievable to my logic when I actually think about the supposed mega forces involved vs how everything actually calmly & universally works everywhere I’ve been on earth.

I like the video below more than the previous, if you want to see some autocad trig

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=rPHckG3o6NQ

 7 years ago  Reveal Comment

Thanks for your response,

The lunar eclipse is on my list of things I need to examine, seems to be used by both sides of the argument a lot.

As far as the scope is concerned, I’ve spent an equal amount of time examining my own jaded psychology. You need to ask yourself about the truth & representation of the death of jfk, the moon trips, the twin towers & numerous other events. If you believe the main media story on those, probably not gonna get anywhere with a flat earth. However if you see problems with all of those things why would you trust other giant things requiring a leap of faith, that in my view contradict physical experience.

Also the unheard of peace regarding the Antarctica treaty is strange. They also get a lot of important traffic there.

There are alternate explanations for planets & retrograde motions that make more logical sense to me. I’ll find some links for that & a lunar eclipse. Thy are all theoretical models

Would love to see any good 3D modeling

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Water can run uphill, for several reasons.

One is the Capillary Effect, which can be seen i.e. if you put a roll of toilet paper into a poodle. Even though only a small part of the toilet roll is submerged in the poodle, the whole role will get wet, the water will efficiently defy gravity and flow upwards.

Other reasons can be wind, pressure (water may flow weirdly under glaciers, and will easily run up to the bathroom at the top floor of an appartment building if the water tubes aren't leaking and the pressure is high enough), tidal forces and probably others.

Those are some good examples of water moving. But do they explain a 4000mile river that should have 1800 miles of curvature, 900 mile midpoint....

Also if the rotation & motion of the earth affect water? Shouldn’t we be able to perceive some differences in how water behaves at the 1000mph equator spin vs your much slower Norway spin? Don’t they seem universal?

The definition of "down" is given by Newton's laws on gravity, it's the direction towards the center of the globe, no matter the position of the globe. Hence a river originating at some high mountain and flowing towards the ocean will run "down" all the way even if the elevation of the mountain seems insignificant compared with the earths curvature.

The Coriolis forces are well-studied and well-understood and can be directly observed in weather patterns and ocean currents.

Contrary to popular belief, the Coriolis effect has very little to do with the vortexes formed when flushing the bathtub.

The mysterious Coriolis forces seem to eat much more force than they expel. This is one of my main logical hurdles with a 1000mph spinning atmosphere.

Also if the rotation causes tidal currents in the ocean, I would expect rivers & lakes to be affected by the spin as well, but nada.

Streams on Mountains running downhill make perfect sense to me on a plane. Streams on mountains on spinning balls where gravity overcomes curvature but the spin has no effect on the stream, makes very little sense to me

Rivers and lakes also experience the same forces as the sea, but the coriolis forces are very week on smaller scales.

Tides and tidal currents are (in my world paradigm) caused by the moon and has nothing to do with the coreolis effect. (And the tidal energy is not magically created, eventually the moon is falling down due to the tidal forces).

The Coriolis seems to be a selective magical force. Sometimes it explains a little tiny affect compared to the huge forces going on, sometimes it explains zero affect, despite constant forces.

The moon, like the Coriolis has selective affect on water. Lakes are completely unaffected by the moon, as are lakes completely unaffected by the supposed Coriolis forces. Same with every river & stream I’ve seen. My logic doesn’t allow me to believe in magical Coriolis. I’ve read dozens of supposed definitions & seen countless examples attempting to demonstrate & or prove the Coriolis & I see many many contradictions & missing affects.

My astronomy teacher back in 2000 was convinced we were losing the moon slowly. Seems many theoretical theories change over just a few decades. I used to think the evolution of knowledge was really interesting. Now it looks like mathematical ass covering

Yo dudes! I know this video! So stupid I totally forgot this one, even after @naturowlmystic asked me if I knew about the story that water remembers flowers... Thanks for refreshing my memory on that @naturowlmystic and @movingman!! :-)

AH YOU FUCKIN' FOUND IT!!!!!! It wasn't just a dream or a trip onetime!!

Yeah man! Thank you so much for turning me on to this. So so sick

Resteemed it! Fuckin awsome, where was it?!

I just turned into "Stoner child mode" and searched Google vids for "water, memory, flower" first one that popped up. There's a longer 40 something minute version too but it's the end of the month and the Internet has owed way down haha

And thanks for the resteem homie! It's much appreciated!

Just watched it and it wasn't the same clip but still perfect evidence! And im happy that its now on Steemit!

That means there's more!! I plan on writing about water tonight if the Internet will let me and I'll see what else I can dig up. 😉😉😉