If you are asking me that question then I have already said that I am not opposed to downvoting per se, even for cases of 'disagreement' over rewards. What I am opposed to is downvoting that has the result of burying information that would otherwise have gathered a lot of attention and interest - not only does it repeat the problems of web 2.0, but it leaves a bad taste in the mouth.. The difference here is intent. My small downvote on a comment that is obviously massively overvoted by most people's sense of scale will do nothing to limit the reach of the comment and is so small as to barely be noticed anyway. Regularly having all of my efforts on Hive zeroed or virtually zeroed feels slightly insulting enough, but to then have the word boring massively amped feels like adding further insult to injury - it is just not a good faith action... I am more about the social than the money, which makes the claims of people here saying that I am 'only about the money' all the more ridiculous and irritating. But to be honest, I feel that is the goal - simply to irritate.. And so here we are.
The goal was not to irritate but to challenge. And I figured nonames would have some interesting things to say if his comment became controversial and I think I have been proven correct.
FWIW I've voted to rearrange the comment order a little bit. Sorry if voting nonames' comment diverted where you wanted this post's conversation to go.
No man. I was bored. If you look closely you'll see I was only joking around at first but then slowly as things progressed was placed in a position to take things a little more seriously. Sure there's some sarcasm injected here and there but that's just how I am when I'm bored. I enjoy lighthearted banter, as do many others, but some do take it all a little too seriously. Certainly wasn't trying to impress anyone or make myself look good. If I cared about that kind of stuff I probably would have taken a different approach, and maybe put on a tie.
You and Pfunk are talking about the comment positioning. On my screen it was shoved down to the bottom as well. That kind of stuff truly doesn't bother me though. I'm using PeakD as well. So not sure what's happening there. It's not a big deal though. Just know some of my sarcastic quips here and there aren't meant to be taken seriously, at all. I have a Canadian sense of humor.
I'm not even offended by your display of arrogance here, downplaying my efforts, and treating my words/presence as nothing but noise. I actually appreciate the honesty.
Look, I don't know hardly anything about you. Today I have been informed that two people close to a friend of mine (brothers) have died shortly after receiving a COVID shot. I have also heard that another FOF's wife died immediately after too. To those not sharing my perspective on what is happening here, my posts seem like amusing content to prod and ridicule - but for many people this info is potentially life and death. What might seem like a bit of fun to you, does not feel that way to me.
Would these millions (and millions!) of The Soul's fans observing The Soul in action now be a little confused as to how The Soul is so heavily censored yet shining so bright, all at the same time?
To be clear, there have been times when a few of my posts were number one one 3speak's view count, number one on the Posh Twitter stats and number one on PeakD's view count. The outer world pays attention to the topics I cover in large numbers. The logic you are using that, in your mind, 'not enough' people look at my content might just have something to do with it being regularly downvoted.
An irony of the logic that says that my posts don't get 'enough' comments for... the subjective preference of some people, is that:
a) This and similar posts have 5-10 times the number of comments (at least) of all other posts on Hive at present.
b) There is no direct connection between the stake used to upvote posts and the number of comments being left anyway. Stakeholders have the capacity to point rewards and drive exposure to posts via trending - by design. Even if that results in posts in trending that aren't as engaged as others (of which there are often many that don't get downvoted), it's still the stakeholder's choice to upvote them and put them there.
In terms of 'censorship', as I pointed out in a previous post on the topic and as others have pointed out already in the comments under this post - the actual definition of censorship is deliberate suppression of information. This does not need to include total blockage of access to the information and can (and does) take the form of reach restriction on social channels (among other forms of control). Anyone who uses silicon valley social networks for anything of real value to humans has, at this point, experienced reach restriction as a result (whether they know it or not). The very long list of highly cited and respected doctors and scientists that have been blacklisted by silicon valley is a testament to that. Are they completely impossible to access online? Some may be, but generally they aren't. None the less, the censorship of their content dramatically limits the number of people that can hear them and that can therefore also support their work.
The idea that anyone questioning downvoting is just a greedy rewards pool rapist is extremely hypocritical, since the entire purpose of the rewards pool is to essentially empower content creators to make more, according to the subjective preference of the community. Obviously, content creators are going to want to access as much support as they can - ideally without being pushy or going against the wishes of the audience. Contrary to the assumptions of a minority of people here, I personally don't want to take rewards from a pool where people don't want me to have it and don't want my content.. I would just go somewhere else.
However, I have put years of my time into helping to build Steem and Hive and I still hold the vision that it can be a beacon of free thought, free speech, open mindedness, decentralisation and generally a human support service. So, I am here looking to build audiences. Clearly, since I regularly receive a lot of voluntary upvotes, there are plenty of people who value what I do - so I am still here. If the upvotes are removed and no-one comments, then there would be no point in me being here, but that is not the case.
the actual definition of censorship is deliberate suppression of information.
So why did you send his comment to the bottom? Seems suppressive. I hoped you would stick to your guns and wouldn't downvote it but this proves an even bigger point.
If you are talking about the 'boring' comment, I have already replied to your previous comment on the same topic. I didn't send his comment anywhere and no reach was lost - despite the comment clearly adding nothing of value except to snarkey people wanting to snark.
If i met you in Real Life... I MIGHT say the word Friend. But I DON'T KNOW YOU!
For all i know you're with 👆THIS TEAM👆 who is "Flaggoting my account to oblivion" as THEY like to say.
So im filing some Paperwork to sue about 6 separate PARTIES, in 4 different countries... Not for any money mind you... JUST TO GET THEIR NAME AND ADDRESS OUT IN THE PUBLIC with Fancy Court orders. And also so that more evidence comes out about how HIVE works so well for many of the top people.
The TEAM of Flaggots have decided im bluffing and have gone ALL IN on the evidence collection so ANY side Distraction like this sets me off...
I'm VERY SURE we've not met...
We have very little interation.
I don't play on the chain to MEET... I work here.
I don't play for any teams here, dude. And all you're doing is demonstrating why platform politics are so lame. Last time you spoke to me here, you were acting friendly. Now you're just being a dick. So go ahead and be a dick. But don't expect me to give a shit about anything you say or do. Totally not interested in your ramblings, videos, nor the random picture show that never makes sense and only helps to make you appear mentally unstable.
I missed my energy, too. It drains out fast though when having to observe the embarrassment that is 'trending' platform politics. From day one here on Hive I've suggested providing this community with a forum/community/tag whatever specifically designed to cater to all these 'local world problems' where people can freely air their grievances but at the same time have that content automatically pulled from general 'trending'.
But I suppose it's more fun to create the illusion of being oppressed by pretending there's only a handful of good folks around here. No better way to promote a project and the people you like than making everyone and everything else look bad or somehow inferior/flawed. (sarcasm)
Was a good break though, yeah. Home for the holidays, I guess.
I'm not sure why you feel so entitled to shape the trending page only to your own whims. Isn't that exactly the attitude of entitlement that is justifying the downvoting sprees here? If people posting challenging content are 'entitled' when they are upset by constant and unreasonable downvoting, then surely people who want to remove all content that doesn't tick their own boxes are also entitled, no?
I'm simply saying give platform politics a proper home so the issues can be tackled more efficiently, all while not chasing away potential new customers or stealing the spotlight from all those hard working types consistently desperate for an actual audience and engagement. Has nothing to do with entitlement, but I'm not surprised even a little bit to see you personally and purposefully spin what I said, take it completely out of context, and attempt to make me look villainous or somehow working against your flow. Many people, yourself included, would seemingly prefer to create a drama fueled spectacle rather than simply getting down to brass tacks. What I'm talking about has literally nothing to do with content ranking. I'm not saying remove content at all. I'm saying put it in a proper home where the right eyes can see it, rather than mixing it in with general content. This isn't some zany concept pulled from the mind of an irrational madman. Do you see boardroom meetings on Youtube trending page? No. So does that mean they don't have problems? No. A simple tab right at the top of all frontends that leads to this internal style content that only makes sense to a few on the inside is fully transparent and the exact opposite of something like censorship. Plus the internal content is no longer pushing general content to the back burner, which would effectively lead to far fewer reasons for anyone to even want to downvote it. I'm not saying remove rewards from it either. Nothing like that at all. I simply feel taking a more professional stance would be far more beneficial and productive. Always have.
P.S. This content isn't 'challenging' so please stop acting like a hero and champion of the people. A few folks on your list of 'freedom fighters' have been loud and in support of completely dismantling the entire reward pool, taking it all away, from everyone. So I'm not sure what you're trying to prove here. At least one was also big into selling votes for the longest time, and all that did was drive thousands of good, organic talent away, forever, in order to replace it all with one of the biggest disasters I've even seen in the history of content distribution online.
You have a very warped view of what is happening here, from my position - at least your views are not reflective of what I see at all. Firstly, 'my group' is not 'my group', it is just people who share a common interest. If you see a football fan being violent it would be wrong to then point to children in the crowd and say 'look, this group are violent' as if everyone who you can fit together into a category are the same or even vaguely similar. Seeking the truth in society is not a 'niche', it is simply what enquiring minds do. Enquiring minds do not always agree.
I had no intention to turn you into a villain, I am simply applying your own logic to yourself - something that is extremely valuable in self analysis and creative thinking.
I agree that large communities need to be structured so as to optimise content discovery and to maximise the value of people's time when they interact in them. Layer 2 communities are likely going to be the solution to most of these problems, as I have said many times. What you seemed to be suggesting was to keep trending all posts, except the specific categories that you personally think shouldn't be there. That is the opposite of empowering people through categorisation and intelligent content discovery.
I have never heard the term 'internal content' before, so I am not 100% sure what you mean by it, but the way you said it originally made it sounds like you were referring to information that you personally perceive to be not of interest to 'everyone' - but I would argue that that definition applies to pretty much all information except 'there's a giant meteor that's about to destroy the planet' level of information.
This content isn't 'challenging' so please stop acting like a hero and champion of the people.
The only reason I have ever been given for the downvoting is 'You don't know anything about science' from Pharesim, which considering no downvoter has ever even attempted to challenge the science I have shared publicly, leads me to conclude that the content is a challenge to some people's personal beliefs (aka challenging).
A few folks on your list of 'freedom fighters' have been loud and in support of completely dismantling the entire reward pool, taking it all away, from everyone.
I have only ever heard anyone advocating for moving rewards from layer 1 to layer 2, which makes a lot of sense. It is likely to happen organically over time anyway.
At least one was also big into selling votes for the longest time, and all that did was drive thousands of good, organic talent away, forever, in order to replace it all with one of the biggest disasters I've even seen in the history of content distribution online.
I have no idea who you are talking about here. I was on a crusade to stop bid bots for years. The main vote sellers I know of are today top 20 witnesses and I don't engage with them.
Blah. Take a chill pill and let these folks have their fun. I don't mind suggesting there should be an open forum to help tackle internal issues, professionally, then being shot down, called names, misconstrued, eventually silenced, downvoted, yadda yadda yadda, by the very people claiming that approach should be frowned upon. When one attempts to offer possible solutions to problems people latch onto in order to get attention and make money, it's only natural to get pushed aside because an actual solution puts them out of work. Go with the flow and see where it leads. (Hint: Nowhere)
Maybe you should quit the quit, and come back. A certain quirkness is lacking from Hive which only you provided. @dreemit is also back - she introduced us iirc. I wonder if holidays are a trend setter for comebacks. If so, hope you stay around.
I've been seriously considering bringing my brand of content back to this place for awhile, again, like I usually do once I return from being away. Is the timing right though? That I'm not sure of. I've always felt so out of place bringing entertainment here and mixing it in with all this Celebrity Witness fake reality show platform politicking hatred nonsense. While I was gone @dreemit left me a comment saying the place just isn't the same anymore. Could it be because doom and gloomers are doing nothing but doom and glooming? I don't even know anymore...
I don't think it will ever be the same as the magical beginnings of 2016/17, but it is definitely improved from a couple years ago. I came back around September and I've had fun connecting with old friends and making a few new ones. And it is definitely Way better than any other social platform out there.
Definitely worth giving a chance :) Good to see you!
Majority of my memories here are good. Plus I got a to write and illustrate a never ending novel of nothingness, which really helped get me through some tough times. Maybe I'll add to it. Creative freedom truly knows no bounds here and much of my work is a prime example of that, hence why I'm so baffled when I come across these posts...
I don't know man, I was part of the drama - not as a protagonist but definitely as a part of - for a while and now that I am just a spectator writing about my own thing, I found that the Hive experience still had a lot to offer for people like us. Sounds a little ignorance is bliss and Poncio Pialteish, but sometimes it is better to not engage in drama if one can do nothing about a situation in order to enjoy all the other things a place has to offer. I'm not saying to turn a blind eye, but to not engage in order to keep one's sanity. It'sAllSoTiring.jpg but still, the timing is never wrong, especially when you're appreciated around the block.
I've always had a blast enjoying the good side. Posts like this act like that's nonexistent. I'd be away and out of the loop completely, for a long time. Got everything settled on a new device, signed in...
The first post I clicked, out of curiosity, was a promoted post published by someone loosely tied to the group of consistent haters/doom and gloomers. I had been mentioned there for some reason. There were a lot of comments that turned out to be that individual talking to itself nonstop but in the post itself was my avatar, some bullshit about me and a link to an old post of mine where I was talking about how frustrating it is to come here, produce actual content, then be shit on and thrown under the bus by these hater types. So yeah, shit on and thrown under the bus first day back. Following the trail of breadcrumbs trying to figure out what all this drama is about after some time basically led me straight to this post, so here I am, bored.
Actually, he downvoted me, censored me to death, and now I have no ability to speak freely. My life is over, basically. I guess the next step would be to write a post and include a list of people who I feel are special. Then I'll talk about my accomplishments and do everything in my power to convince people I'm a nice guy, so they listen to me and do as I say. I'll talk about how important free speech is, but as as soon as someone comes along to say things that don't sound like praise, I'll try my best to make them look like an idiot, then downvote their ass, and pretend I'm not being a hypocrite.
Damn man, condolences on the censorship. I liked your comment the best and gave it my upvote. But how evil it was for it to be downvoted and sent to the bottom once more. This comment thread has the most interesting discussion about the topic at hand but the OP has done his best to hide it. Too much challenge? Not enough yes-sir? I guess I know who I won't be voting as a witness.
What really hurts my feelings the most though is how I have this fancy new keyboard I won't be able to use. Pretty much everything I say just sounds like the spacebar now. I'm surprised you can even see me. Trapped within this void, I found myself, in the dark, feeling abandoned and alone with thoughts I'm not allowed to use anymore because a freedom fighter kicked my ass. And to top it all off with the hardest pill to swallow...
Nothing to see here, man. Just me, captivating an audience, by being bored, in some random comment section on the internet somewhere. I'll try to be more productive, tomorrow.
Thanks for letting us know and increasing the excitement.
Why did you censor this man @nonameslefttouse? Seems... hypocritical.
If you are asking me that question then I have already said that I am not opposed to downvoting per se, even for cases of 'disagreement' over rewards. What I am opposed to is downvoting that has the result of burying information that would otherwise have gathered a lot of attention and interest - not only does it repeat the problems of web 2.0, but it leaves a bad taste in the mouth.. The difference here is intent. My small downvote on a comment that is obviously massively overvoted by most people's sense of scale will do nothing to limit the reach of the comment and is so small as to barely be noticed anyway. Regularly having all of my efforts on Hive zeroed or virtually zeroed feels slightly insulting enough, but to then have the word boring massively amped feels like adding further insult to injury - it is just not a good faith action... I am more about the social than the money, which makes the claims of people here saying that I am 'only about the money' all the more ridiculous and irritating. But to be honest, I feel that is the goal - simply to irritate.. And so here we are.
The goal was not to irritate but to challenge. And I figured nonames would have some interesting things to say if his comment became controversial and I think I have been proven correct.
It just feels like caustic, biased and hypocritical attempts to bolster egos to me - but, hey, whatever floats your boat.
FWIW I've voted to rearrange the comment order a little bit. Sorry if voting nonames' comment diverted where you wanted this post's conversation to go.
Thanks ok, I appreciate it. :)
No man. I was bored. If you look closely you'll see I was only joking around at first but then slowly as things progressed was placed in a position to take things a little more seriously. Sure there's some sarcasm injected here and there but that's just how I am when I'm bored. I enjoy lighthearted banter, as do many others, but some do take it all a little too seriously. Certainly wasn't trying to impress anyone or make myself look good. If I cared about that kind of stuff I probably would have taken a different approach, and maybe put on a tie.
You and Pfunk are talking about the comment positioning. On my screen it was shoved down to the bottom as well. That kind of stuff truly doesn't bother me though. I'm using PeakD as well. So not sure what's happening there. It's not a big deal though. Just know some of my sarcastic quips here and there aren't meant to be taken seriously, at all. I have a Canadian sense of humor.
I'm not even offended by your display of arrogance here, downplaying my efforts, and treating my words/presence as nothing but noise. I actually appreciate the honesty.
Look, I don't know hardly anything about you. Today I have been informed that two people close to a friend of mine (brothers) have died shortly after receiving a COVID shot. I have also heard that another FOF's wife died immediately after too. To those not sharing my perspective on what is happening here, my posts seem like amusing content to prod and ridicule - but for many people this info is potentially life and death. What might seem like a bit of fun to you, does not feel that way to me.
Us?
How many of you are inside there?
I was referring to the many people looking at this page via the internet.
Would these millions (and millions!) of The Soul's fans observing The Soul in action now be a little confused as to how The Soul is so heavily censored yet shining so bright, all at the same time?
To be clear, there have been times when a few of my posts were number one one 3speak's view count, number one on the Posh Twitter stats and number one on PeakD's view count. The outer world pays attention to the topics I cover in large numbers. The logic you are using that, in your mind, 'not enough' people look at my content might just have something to do with it being regularly downvoted.
An irony of the logic that says that my posts don't get 'enough' comments for... the subjective preference of some people, is that:
a) This and similar posts have 5-10 times the number of comments (at least) of all other posts on Hive at present.
b) There is no direct connection between the stake used to upvote posts and the number of comments being left anyway. Stakeholders have the capacity to point rewards and drive exposure to posts via trending - by design. Even if that results in posts in trending that aren't as engaged as others (of which there are often many that don't get downvoted), it's still the stakeholder's choice to upvote them and put them there.
In terms of 'censorship', as I pointed out in a previous post on the topic and as others have pointed out already in the comments under this post - the actual definition of censorship is deliberate suppression of information. This does not need to include total blockage of access to the information and can (and does) take the form of reach restriction on social channels (among other forms of control). Anyone who uses silicon valley social networks for anything of real value to humans has, at this point, experienced reach restriction as a result (whether they know it or not). The very long list of highly cited and respected doctors and scientists that have been blacklisted by silicon valley is a testament to that. Are they completely impossible to access online? Some may be, but generally they aren't. None the less, the censorship of their content dramatically limits the number of people that can hear them and that can therefore also support their work.
The idea that anyone questioning downvoting is just a greedy rewards pool rapist is extremely hypocritical, since the entire purpose of the rewards pool is to essentially empower content creators to make more, according to the subjective preference of the community. Obviously, content creators are going to want to access as much support as they can - ideally without being pushy or going against the wishes of the audience. Contrary to the assumptions of a minority of people here, I personally don't want to take rewards from a pool where people don't want me to have it and don't want my content.. I would just go somewhere else.
However, I have put years of my time into helping to build Steem and Hive and I still hold the vision that it can be a beacon of free thought, free speech, open mindedness, decentralisation and generally a human support service. So, I am here looking to build audiences. Clearly, since I regularly receive a lot of voluntary upvotes, there are plenty of people who value what I do - so I am still here. If the upvotes are removed and no-one comments, then there would be no point in me being here, but that is not the case.
Well yeah, if I sit here and have a conversation with you and several others who want to speak to me, of course the amount of comments will increase.
Try not to take all the credit. I'm a human, not just some number that only exists to make you look good or feel important.
There's no real need to overly explain yourself either. This wasn't a job interview.
He does that, if you don't always read and reply he'll say you've gone "silent" to defend his narrative.
So why did you send his comment to the bottom? Seems suppressive. I hoped you would stick to your guns and wouldn't downvote it but this proves an even bigger point.
If you are talking about the 'boring' comment, I have already replied to your previous comment on the same topic. I didn't send his comment anywhere and no reach was lost - despite the comment clearly adding nothing of value except to snarkey people wanting to snark.
You're being GASLIT and you just let this loser take the top part of your comment real estate with his "LOW EFFORT CONTENT"
His account ought to be Downvoted to Oblivion like all of it's "fiends" suggest. [sarcasm]
The blanket of useful idiots is filled with holes... IMHO.
I didn't 'let' anything happen here, I have no control over who upvotes the comments and pushes them to the top.
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Highest regards!
50:00 minutes is a good starting point.
Can i rely on you to handle onboarding these FreeSpeechActivists onto THIS Plaform?
Thanks for calling me a loser. I hope that makes you feel like a winner.
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Remember that time in the past you pretended to be my friend? I do.
Thanks for showing me your true colors. Had a hunch you weren't being real with me.
How insulting.
If i met you in Real Life... I MIGHT say the word Friend. But I DON'T KNOW YOU!
For all i know you're with 👆THIS TEAM👆 who is "Flaggoting my account to oblivion" as THEY like to say.
So im filing some Paperwork to sue about 6 separate PARTIES, in 4 different countries... Not for any money mind you... JUST TO GET THEIR NAME AND ADDRESS OUT IN THE PUBLIC with Fancy Court orders. And also so that more evidence comes out about how HIVE works so well for many of the top people.
The TEAM of Flaggots have decided im bluffing and have gone ALL IN on the evidence collection so ANY side Distraction like this sets me off...
I'm VERY SURE we've not met...
We have very little interation.
I don't play on the chain to MEET... I work here.
Have a nice day.
I don't play for any teams here, dude. And all you're doing is demonstrating why platform politics are so lame. Last time you spoke to me here, you were acting friendly. Now you're just being a dick. So go ahead and be a dick. But don't expect me to give a shit about anything you say or do. Totally not interested in your ramblings, videos, nor the random picture show that never makes sense and only helps to make you appear mentally unstable.
Hello quitter! :)
Hi! Totally noticed I quit being on vacation again eh. Nothing gets past this one!
Good to see you, is what I'd say, if we all weren't so heavily censored here on the Hive thing, as they say, nowadays, for some strange reason.
Good to have you back. I hope you enjoyed your break :) I missed your energy (No sarcasm).
I missed my energy, too. It drains out fast though when having to observe the embarrassment that is 'trending' platform politics. From day one here on Hive I've suggested providing this community with a forum/community/tag whatever specifically designed to cater to all these 'local world problems' where people can freely air their grievances but at the same time have that content automatically pulled from general 'trending'.
But I suppose it's more fun to create the illusion of being oppressed by pretending there's only a handful of good folks around here. No better way to promote a project and the people you like than making everyone and everything else look bad or somehow inferior/flawed. (sarcasm)
Was a good break though, yeah. Home for the holidays, I guess.
I'm not sure why you feel so entitled to shape the trending page only to your own whims. Isn't that exactly the attitude of entitlement that is justifying the downvoting sprees here? If people posting challenging content are 'entitled' when they are upset by constant and unreasonable downvoting, then surely people who want to remove all content that doesn't tick their own boxes are also entitled, no?
I'm simply saying give platform politics a proper home so the issues can be tackled more efficiently, all while not chasing away potential new customers or stealing the spotlight from all those hard working types consistently desperate for an actual audience and engagement. Has nothing to do with entitlement, but I'm not surprised even a little bit to see you personally and purposefully spin what I said, take it completely out of context, and attempt to make me look villainous or somehow working against your flow. Many people, yourself included, would seemingly prefer to create a drama fueled spectacle rather than simply getting down to brass tacks. What I'm talking about has literally nothing to do with content ranking. I'm not saying remove content at all. I'm saying put it in a proper home where the right eyes can see it, rather than mixing it in with general content. This isn't some zany concept pulled from the mind of an irrational madman. Do you see boardroom meetings on Youtube trending page? No. So does that mean they don't have problems? No. A simple tab right at the top of all frontends that leads to this internal style content that only makes sense to a few on the inside is fully transparent and the exact opposite of something like censorship. Plus the internal content is no longer pushing general content to the back burner, which would effectively lead to far fewer reasons for anyone to even want to downvote it. I'm not saying remove rewards from it either. Nothing like that at all. I simply feel taking a more professional stance would be far more beneficial and productive. Always have.
P.S. This content isn't 'challenging' so please stop acting like a hero and champion of the people. A few folks on your list of 'freedom fighters' have been loud and in support of completely dismantling the entire reward pool, taking it all away, from everyone. So I'm not sure what you're trying to prove here. At least one was also big into selling votes for the longest time, and all that did was drive thousands of good, organic talent away, forever, in order to replace it all with one of the biggest disasters I've even seen in the history of content distribution online.
You have a very warped view of what is happening here, from my position - at least your views are not reflective of what I see at all. Firstly, 'my group' is not 'my group', it is just people who share a common interest. If you see a football fan being violent it would be wrong to then point to children in the crowd and say 'look, this group are violent' as if everyone who you can fit together into a category are the same or even vaguely similar. Seeking the truth in society is not a 'niche', it is simply what enquiring minds do. Enquiring minds do not always agree.
I had no intention to turn you into a villain, I am simply applying your own logic to yourself - something that is extremely valuable in self analysis and creative thinking.
I agree that large communities need to be structured so as to optimise content discovery and to maximise the value of people's time when they interact in them. Layer 2 communities are likely going to be the solution to most of these problems, as I have said many times. What you seemed to be suggesting was to keep trending all posts, except the specific categories that you personally think shouldn't be there. That is the opposite of empowering people through categorisation and intelligent content discovery.
I have never heard the term 'internal content' before, so I am not 100% sure what you mean by it, but the way you said it originally made it sounds like you were referring to information that you personally perceive to be not of interest to 'everyone' - but I would argue that that definition applies to pretty much all information except 'there's a giant meteor that's about to destroy the planet' level of information.
The only reason I have ever been given for the downvoting is 'You don't know anything about science' from Pharesim, which considering no downvoter has ever even attempted to challenge the science I have shared publicly, leads me to conclude that the content is a challenge to some people's personal beliefs (aka challenging).
I have only ever heard anyone advocating for moving rewards from layer 1 to layer 2, which makes a lot of sense. It is likely to happen organically over time anyway.
I have no idea who you are talking about here. I was on a crusade to stop bid bots for years. The main vote sellers I know of are today top 20 witnesses and I don't engage with them.
Don't worry noname;
It won't be in trending for long. Please tolerate these folks a little bit...
Blah. Take a chill pill and let these folks have their fun. I don't mind suggesting there should be an open forum to help tackle internal issues, professionally, then being shot down, called names, misconstrued, eventually silenced, downvoted, yadda yadda yadda, by the very people claiming that approach should be frowned upon. When one attempts to offer possible solutions to problems people latch onto in order to get attention and make money, it's only natural to get pushed aside because an actual solution puts them out of work. Go with the flow and see where it leads. (Hint: Nowhere)
Keyword: Nowhere!
and yes, and agree. I have all the time in the world. This is nothing new. :)
Maybe you should quit the quit, and come back. A certain quirkness is lacking from Hive which only you provided. @dreemit is also back - she introduced us iirc. I wonder if holidays are a trend setter for comebacks. If so, hope you stay around.
I've been seriously considering bringing my brand of content back to this place for awhile, again, like I usually do once I return from being away. Is the timing right though? That I'm not sure of. I've always felt so out of place bringing entertainment here and mixing it in with all this Celebrity Witness fake reality show platform politicking hatred nonsense. While I was gone @dreemit left me a comment saying the place just isn't the same anymore. Could it be because doom and gloomers are doing nothing but doom and glooming? I don't even know anymore...
I don't think it will ever be the same as the magical beginnings of 2016/17, but it is definitely improved from a couple years ago. I came back around September and I've had fun connecting with old friends and making a few new ones. And it is definitely Way better than any other social platform out there.
Definitely worth giving a chance :) Good to see you!
Majority of my memories here are good. Plus I got a to write and illustrate a never ending novel of nothingness, which really helped get me through some tough times. Maybe I'll add to it. Creative freedom truly knows no bounds here and much of my work is a prime example of that, hence why I'm so baffled when I come across these posts...
Whatever.
I don't know man, I was part of the drama - not as a protagonist but definitely as a part of - for a while and now that I am just a spectator writing about my own thing, I found that the Hive experience still had a lot to offer for people like us. Sounds a little ignorance is bliss and Poncio Pialteish, but sometimes it is better to not engage in drama if one can do nothing about a situation in order to enjoy all the other things a place has to offer. I'm not saying to turn a blind eye, but to not engage in order to keep one's sanity. It'sAllSoTiring.jpg but still, the timing is never wrong, especially when you're appreciated around the block.
I've always had a blast enjoying the good side. Posts like this act like that's nonexistent. I'd be away and out of the loop completely, for a long time. Got everything settled on a new device, signed in...
The first post I clicked, out of curiosity, was a promoted post published by someone loosely tied to the group of consistent haters/doom and gloomers. I had been mentioned there for some reason. There were a lot of comments that turned out to be that individual talking to itself nonstop but in the post itself was my avatar, some bullshit about me and a link to an old post of mine where I was talking about how frustrating it is to come here, produce actual content, then be shit on and thrown under the bus by these hater types. So yeah, shit on and thrown under the bus first day back. Following the trail of breadcrumbs trying to figure out what all this drama is about after some time basically led me straight to this post, so here I am, bored.
Oh yeah, I avoid any doom and gloom which might be why I have a more positive outlook than I did lol
Sir be careful, words can make people censor themselves.
Actually, he downvoted me, censored me to death, and now I have no ability to speak freely. My life is over, basically. I guess the next step would be to write a post and include a list of people who I feel are special. Then I'll talk about my accomplishments and do everything in my power to convince people I'm a nice guy, so they listen to me and do as I say. I'll talk about how important free speech is, but as as soon as someone comes along to say things that don't sound like praise, I'll try my best to make them look like an idiot, then downvote their ass, and pretend I'm not being a hypocrite.
You're hired!
Damn man, condolences on the censorship. I liked your comment the best and gave it my upvote. But how evil it was for it to be downvoted and sent to the bottom once more. This comment thread has the most interesting discussion about the topic at hand but the OP has done his best to hide it. Too much challenge? Not enough yes-sir? I guess I know who I won't be voting as a witness.
What really hurts my feelings the most though is how I have this fancy new keyboard I won't be able to use. Pretty much everything I say just sounds like the spacebar now. I'm surprised you can even see me. Trapped within this void, I found myself, in the dark, feeling abandoned and alone with thoughts I'm not allowed to use anymore because a freedom fighter kicked my ass. And to top it all off with the hardest pill to swallow...
I'm not even as cool as abshamilton...
Did someone write something?
Nothing to see here, man. Just me, captivating an audience, by being bored, in some random comment section on the internet somewhere. I'll try to be more productive, tomorrow.