Consequences

in Reflections4 months ago

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In nature there are neither rewards nor punishments; there are consequences.

- Robert Green Ingersoll -



I like that quote which I first came across in 1998 when I was doing things that often came with serious consequences.

I recall reading it and thinking how relevant it was and how it applies to humans just as much as it does in nature. With human beings there's often reward and punishment associated with what we say and do however could those things be seen simply as consequences rather than reward or punishment?

I wrote the quote in my quote note book with additional thoughts beside it, the reason it struck a chord, what I was doing and thinking at the time, and since then I've referred back to it many times to remind myself that actions come with consequences and that those who enjoy or suffer those consequences usually deserve them for good or ill.

I've watched many people self-destruct in the real world and lay the blame at someone else's feet rather than take responsibility for their actions and the consequences they brought into being by those actions.

I've seen the same thing on Hive, a collection of nutbags and knuckleheads (humans) all being nutbags and knuckleheads (human), where a person acts in a certain way and suffers the consequences those actions brought; I'm watching one such individual doing it now...a person who's account has degenerated into...well, nothing at all really. I feel no pity, it's a reality that person chose, a path they decided to take despite other options existing.

I've watched many people achieve amazing results in the real world, accept ownership, take responsibility and show the discipline to do what's required despite it being difficult or uncomfortable and enjoy the consequences they brought into being by those actions.

I've seen the same thing on Hive, accounts who have chosen to walk better paths, to apply effort, passion and personality, engage with the community in meaningful ways, power up in support of the blockchain rather than exit all of their earnings. I've watched those accounts grow, have helped them grow, and I feel happy and enthused by the choices and effort they've made and the favourable consequences those choices have wrought.

Everything we think and feel and all the different ways we choose to act come with consequences good or bad and also affect those things we do in the future. Blame is negative, ownership is positive...it's a choice.


Which ethos do you prefer and why? Feel free to comment should you wish to. Feel free to power up more than you power down, to vote comments and posts but not your own, and to engage with relevance and personality on other people's posts too - You may be surprised at the (positive) consequences it brings.



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Indeed. I agree that on Hive, as with real life- you reap what you sow.

If you work hard and do your work, you benefit.

Some people seem to get away with an imbalance. Low effort with high reward or zero consequences. When that goes on too long we end up with spoiled children both young and old.

I work hard to prevent the former in my own kids and work with some of the latter....

When that goes on too long we end up with spoiled children both young and old.

This sounds like a relative we have that is in their 50s now and still has no ownership of their life.

Indeed. And blaming everyone else for their shortcomings right?

Everyone and everything.

Indeed. I know a few such adults...

I reward hard work, and have personally be rewarded for hard work, which is fine by me...I don't want handouts, charity or pity...I want to earn what I get. Society is full of people cutting corners, trying to find the easy way or options, and yet they want to be highly rewarded for that lack of effort; it's creating lazy people, shoddy work and output, dumbing people down and rewarding entitled behaviour. No Bueno.

Indeed.

I think entitlement is a strongly negative word since it exemplifies people who assume they will be obeyed and/or rewarded for nothing other than their status.

Rewarded/deserving of reward implies work.

Entitled people do not like work.

I suppose that these days we find entitled people among both the rich and the poor. Those in the middle usually have a better perspective. But it is not a garuantee!

Yeah, those entitled assholes are everywhere and from all walks of life. It's an easy option to feel that way, whine and complain rather than get in there and get stuff done, take ownership and show responsibility. People are always looking for the east way.

Its the responsibility innit? Some people just cant abide to take any then wonder why the people that do, do better

Yeah, there's always consequences and it's up to the individual to make them positive or negative, and accept the fact that sometimes those consequences might be costly. You know who is finding out.

Its quite something when you see someone visibly and in a self aware way make choices that later on they lament and say "why does this always happen to me?" when the consequences fall. I have a close relative that does exactly that all the feecking time

People are weak of mind, no fortitude, and it often seems easier to them to blame (not themselves) rather than accept liability and make better choices the next time. Then, they find themselves doing the same things and because they are often entitled, expecting different results. Bonkers really. The only good thing is that you or I are not those people...everyone else is on their own...but don't have to be...there's plenty of resources out there to educate and help people get better at being themselves.

That is a solid quote and can only imagine how it stuck with you when reading at the time. I prefer ownership. I have been down that dark path before, and it leads to a very bad place of broken trust and relationships.

Yep, ownership indeed. It is a great feeling to accept that responsibility, own success and failure, because it affirms that win or allows reflection to improve on a loss.

Agree...our thoughts and our actions are the biggest consequences...which decide all things 😄

I've watched those accounts grow, have helped them grow.

Really appreciate all your work, your support means a lot. Will spread your support further on.

As I always say action and reaction, that's how life moves, it's like a boomerang, everything comes back, if I do good it comes back good, if I do bad it will come back.

So it's just a logical thought, if I think well and I do well.... it will have a consequence of good and vice versa.

But many people blame it on chance and destiny, that does not exist, only what we do.

Be yourself, be genuine... it's worth it.

I love that phrase! Hope you had a great day Galen!

Yeah, people tend not to remember that when they act it'll have an effect, and not always the one they would like.

A good day was had today, work, but I'm home now and about to eat dinner then watch Star Wars VII. And a good night shall be had.

Have a nice day.

I'm glad it was a good day, have a nice dinner and a good rest. My day today with lots of activity, that's good!!!
Hugs!

Your post inspired me to finally write something. Thank you @galenkp

No worries at all, it's nice to know a few words I threw together had that effect.

It's like that other quote about things that happen to you being a certain percentage and how you react to them being a different percentage. I've seen a fair number of people pretty much implode on here after one two downvotes or pieces of constructive criticism. People are whimsical beasts and sometimes it's better just to keep your head down and do your thing on here. I wonder if there is a high number of Bipolar people here on Hive because sometimes you never know which mood you are going to get! :) I agree though, I just focus on putting out the best content I can.

Every one of my posts gets downvoted, it means literally nothing to me. But like you say, there's a lot of strange people here who lose their fucken minds at the first sight of a downvote. If it came from me, and they react like that, they get a whole fuck ton more usually. Getting aggressive with me never has the effect people think it will.

Bipolar...it's possible for sure. Entitled? Yep definitely. Lazy? That too.

Haha, yeah, probably a little bit of all of those things! I get downvoted occasionally, it really rubbed me the first couple of times, but I learned to not let it bother me. I think if my posts ever started getting zeroed I'd be more concerned about what I did wrong to get to that point versus how unfair it was or whose fault it was. Fingers crossed that never happens.

It may happen, it's one of those things. People come to Hive for the freedom and that means they have the freedom to vote as they wish, just like everyone else does. It's a simple thing really.

Not familiar with Robert Green Ingersoll but I like the quote. Causes and consequences are at the fabric of life as it is on Hive. We all decide on thousands of things in our lives, both consciously and otherwise, but all of the things we do act upon will have consequences, big or small, they will eventually come up. The thing about Hive is that all actions and consequences are recorded on the blockchain and ten or twenty years down the road, we will see who among us took the right path and achieved what they set out to do here. Whether it's financial success, social recognition, building a community or an app, we can analyze and see who did well for themselves and contributed to the success of the blockchain. Time will tell. 😎

Time often reveals the right or wrong of things, but not always. Let's see what happens. Maybe Hive won't be around in twenty years. I mean, there's loads of things that were popular that have simply vanished, Yahoo Messenger chat rooms for instance.

So true. I remember those Yahoo Messenger chatrooms, it was so cool back in the day. Now, if we could only make Hive cooler than what it is today then it might still be here 20 years from now.

Yeah, I'm not sure if that's possible...time will tell.

I agree. We shall see...

As of this time, never tried power down. 😊 I like doing power up every HPUD. I'm looking forward to participate that event.😊

Life is made up of the choices we make and who we choose to be. Dealing with the consequences of these choices is part of it, and that's just how it is. Only we know where it hurts or doesn't, and making sure the consequences are positive is entirely up to us

Seems like a fair point.

We put in our actions through what we are doing and the decisions we are taking. But we live with the outcome of those choices which are the consequences of those choices.
I only wish my won't take the path of the one you mentioned

Yes, we reap a harvest from that which we sow.

Definitely, but in real life it pained me when i see people do things without caution or any form of consequence this you will find among many younger folks in their teens....

Hive ecosystem is so discentralized in such away that you are solely responsible for everything that goes on with your account, so is real life, it is that sense of responsibility that made me love this place.....its like a place for MATURED MINDS ONLY 😉

Yeah, there's always consequences even if they're not at first apparent.

All you do is power down and extract funds from the blockchain, no power ups. You'll get no more support or votes from me because you take and give nothing back in support of the community.

It's your choice of course, it's freedom, but don't be surprised if you see some downvotes from me. That's my choice, my freedom.

Yah, its cool by the way #Respect to your opinion, been here a couple of years so i don't really need to be tutored on the impact of power ups or holding more hive or saving some HBD or engagement upvote or rebloggs or buying some more hive into my wallet, i grab all of that buh since i'm still struggling switching between jobs and working real hard to stay consistent on the blockchain, time will come when all that will be possible,
so for the time being you might not really understand what it means coming from my end.....

Gracias @galenkp

I'm not tutoring you, just telling you that you'll no longer get my upvotes.

The message says it all @galenkp! LOUDER!! I see some in hive too that there are some selfish member or some favouritism involved. I adore people who is consistent and strive to be better, motivate and inspire others just like others have inspired you. They are the people that needs to be rewarded because they do it with pure intentions.

Im back writing in hive again, my mental state is getting better and will do my best to share useful content in Hive.

Yes, people should be rewarded, but I won't reward people who don't support the blockchain with power ups. I checked your wallet and see that you have extracted (removed) hundreds of hive and yet your power ups are very small amounts.

So yeah, I agree, people should be rewarded, but not unless they give a little back in power ups to support the community.

People's actions come with consequences.

Glad you look it up! Ive been back to writing after 7 months. I used to power up my accounts and have delegated my hive power to ecency, but decided to remove and power down as well as withdraw due to low financial situation based on personal matters. Something to consider doing when you are in your lows.

Constantly increasing HP is good if people have a constant influx of HIVE from posting. Another thing is that such a rare type of people as investors in Hive need to think carefully about what time to buy HIVE, now or a little later.

Posting rewards are just a small part of all HIVEs. A bear market will have a huge impact on the price of HIVE when BTC begins to correct. I would recommend people to wait for good prices on HIVE and buy back the fall of our coin for the benefit of all of us.

Not long ago, 1 HBD was equal to 1 HIVE. I think that we will all have the opportunity to buy 20 HIVE for 1 HBD. And then many will have a chance to become an orca or a whale.

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Recently (after spending about 8 years in hive), I have decided to renew my principles, focusing on a vision that is based more on the "merits" of all those who do them, those who really demonstrate that they are making a difference, and that With their content, comments and interactions, they really show that they make a difference. But I also take into account the support they provide to other people in crisis situations, people who are generally minnows and go completely unnoticed and undervalued by large healing projects or stakeholders. There I try to give them some "light", motivation.

Unfortunately, there are people with lives in extreme and difficult conditions, trying only to "survive" (because living is a luxury for us) and in that sense we do everything possible to try to maintain a standard of quality in our content.

To achieve all this, I recently diversified all my content to arts (I learned the skill of pixel art during all these months, it was a new adventure for me, I created nft, and now I am very happy with it, it is an important part of my content. Explore the humanistic aspect in me, and I discovered that I am a "transhumanist", I interact daily through discord not only with people from hive, but also from other social networks, and my hobby which is role-playing games, and many other things , if I tell them, I would create an entire post within this comment, and that is not my intention). Through this I have achieved significant growth that makes me very happy.

Added to all this, in this new stage I have proposed to get closer to other communities, other people, other visions that are not the "conventional" ones that I am used to seeing in the environment in which I move. This with the intention of learning and for those people to benefit from what I have to offer.

For me, this represents the meaning of growth and is the consequences of my meritocratic system that I have reinforced.

I'm not really sure what to comment here. I took a look at your wallet and saw a stake of only 733 and a lot of withdrawn funds and very few power ups. You started in October 2019, that's five years not eight like you mention, but even after that time I'd have thought you'd have a bigger stake which means you have a bigger vote to cast on those minnows and unnoticed accounts you mention.

I guess everyone does things differently, so you do what you do and focus on your endgame, if you're happy with that then good for you.

Yes, it is actually 8 years, because I lost my original account due to losing the passwords and not being able to recover them, in those days I did not have the knowledge that I have now.

Regarding withdrawing the funds, it is something that due to the personal situation I have been forced to do, in order to survive, but I understand quite well the point of having a stake, although in all this time according to the accounts, I could have accumulated a few 5 or 6 thousand hp according to what hivebuzz shows, which is not a big stake either, which in my opinion could make a big difference.

I can't really say that I'm happy with the results, but I'm still working on getting better results.

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Hurrah!

Thanks for commenting, much appreciated.