For over five years I've been writing on the blockchain; I've found enjoyment through it and have learned things from people I'd never usually have the opportunity to meet. Since I began here, I've seen many people come and go, some I've missed and others didn't even raise the slightest of blips on my radar. Some don't have the time and some lose interest and who can forget those who rage quit? Of that special breed of person bespawler, there are a quite few.
I was in conversation with a Hive user who's been around a little longer than myself today, discussing what it takes to build a solid account here. I use the word, build, because we both agreed that that's exactly what is required. A solid and sustainable account starts with a good foundation and as it rises higher and higher care must be taken to construct it in such a manner that it won't crumble.
Builders
Most do a good job, the best they know how, and because I curate a lot and run communities I see those accounts grow and develop.
What's usually common to those I refer tis their ability to listen and learn, accept constructive suggestions, ask questions and actually apply the answers they receive to their posts. They get involved with others, comment on other people's accounts rather than waiting for people to comment to them, spread their votes around and support communities. These things make it easier for those of us who have been around longer and have bigger stake to support them...and those newer accounts grow commensurate to the efforts those people go to.
I see many such people in my communities and, whilst they don't always get it right and need to be nudged in the right direction now and then, mostly they accept the nudge, apologise for their errors, and move back to the business of building their accounts.
Breakers
Not everyone does so though. Every now and then someone chooses to think of themselves as...I don't know, special?
These people tend not to listen to the advice or directions of others; I'm not sure why, a feeling of entitlement perhaps, along with selfishness, mean-spiritedness, an egotistical or narcissistic nature...or maybe it's just stupidity. A good example could be a user who doesn't follow community guidelines set by a community owner. When addressed they often take it personally, see it as an affront on their character or a personal attack, call it censorship and cite the fact we're on a decentralised blockchain and they can do as they like. It's a familiar story.
What they miss though, is that just as they feel entitled to act as they see fit, and rave loudly about it, others are also so entitled to do the same. Right?
It's even more ridiculous when one considers that their failure to adhere to house rules in a community can be solved with a, sorry, I'll rectify my post and ensure I read the rules before I post here again, comment. But no...they engage rant-mode and it's in that moment they begin to break their account.
If you come to my home you'll see a no-smoking sign at the door; I don't even allow people to smoke in my back yard or under my pergola; if they want to smoke they can do so standing out on the roadside. It's my house so, my rules.
Now imagine someone being told this, and totally ignoring the rules of my house by lighting up a cigarette anyway. How do you think that would go for that person? Hint: Not very fucken well.
Should it be different in a Hive community that the owner has put a lot of time and effort into? It's not easy running a community, it takes effort, and I like mine to appear and present in a way I can be proud of. It's mine after all and I'm not forcing anyone to post there so if they don't like the rules, just go away and post elsewhere. I would feel no remorse in ejecting someone who flaunted the no smoking rule in my home, and don't feel any when I address those doing the same in my communities; I'm simply reacting to the choices they, themselves, have made.
Foundation, building and maintenance
The world is full of many different types of people who all think and act differently. We live in different countries and come from different cultures and there's many differences; behaviours acceptable in one location may be totally unacceptable in another - The situation in Iran with Mahsa Amini is a perfect example. Naturally, some of these things, beliefs and ideologies make their way onto the blockchain and can cause issues. But humans are also similar in many ways and with common courtesy, manners, understanding and rational thought most of us can congregate in the community together and find enjoyment without being offensive, acting poorly or breaking it.
Laying a foundation then building upon it is the only way forward here, along with some nurturing of ones account and relationships. Together with some of that courtesy and manners paradigm from above an account can be easily built with integrity and in a time-effective manner.
There's always going to be those on the fringes who choose other paths, act in a manner unbecoming, negatively or simply don't follow the very simple guidelines we have here and that's ok...There's a place for them also...once they've caused their accounts here to crumble. The returns there are bad virtually non-existent and a blogging platform that centres around incessant whinging and negativity about this platform seems like a pretty hellish place...But people find a home there, and good luck to them...better there than here.
I wonder what your thoughts are on building an account here; this, for the new and older users alike. Also, are you a builder or breaker? What have you done to accomplish either? Feel free to comment below if you like.
Design and create your ideal life, don't live it by default - Tomorrow isn't promised so be humble and kind
Any images in this post are my own
Well I’m just new here, literally a couple days, and I’m still wandering around starry eyed taking it all in, Infact, I’m still learning what “blockchain,” even means 😂 I learned about this place through Chinese whispers but I like it already, and so far I’ve had a positive impression.
What you’ve just wrote feels very valuable to me however and I thank you for sharing it, once I get the hang of it all and start posting/learning how to get involved in communities, I’ll be taking it on board.
BY THE WAY: I absolutely love the picture, it’s what drew me in to your post, I’m a big Piet Mondrian fan and this pic is like Piet Mondrian but IRL!
Cheers to you dude. 🍻
Welcome to Hive! You stumbled on one of the best dude's on Hive's post, so if you stick with him and don't give him any shit (that's not warranted :D) you'll learn a lot!
A ok,
fresh meat for the grindera newbie, welcome along! (I was only joking with the fresh meat/grinder comment) or was I? 😂It's a good place man, over five years I've been here and here I am still. That has to say something right? If you have any questions, feel free to ask.
I work in shipping, logistics and transport as a manager and so I'm surrounded by containers, trucks and stuff like that during the course of my day sometimes, when I'm not in the boardrooms of course. I took this one near the wharves and have a few more I may use in the future. Thanks for mentioning it.
Hahaha, uh oh! Well, be careful what you wish for as I may hold you to that about asking questions, I’m sure I’ll have many as I go along. I appreciate it, good to know I can ask if I can’t get to the bottom of something. If you don’t know Piet Mondrian Google him and you’ll instantly see what I mean about your pic!
I look forward to your future pics and posts, you are the first person I’ve followed on here, so you must be doing something right!🍻
An excellent choice to follow @galenkp first, if I might say so. Welcome newbie, I hope you find the right communities and soon feel like you’re in the right place :)
Thanks Eve.
It was much less a wish and more a friendly offer to be honest. If I was making a wish, I'd wish for a hundred more of them. 😊
I know of Piet Mondrian and see the similarities for sure, blocks of colour and all.
I can see you've had a delegation by woodmurderedhat so you should be ok for RC which will allow you to comment, and I see you've been doing a little of that too. Thanks for the follow, I'm sure I'll see you around.
Boom. Gone
Oh, I read what you said about the northerner and I was all over that profile. It actually made me a little sad that he was fake, although I did mention that to several people in the beginning.
I am a builder, sort of. I am a slow and steady builder, nothing big or bold about my movement here, just as consistent as time allows. Our legacy platform really got me down with all those bid bots. I never used one, but, it was truly gut-wrenching to watch people buy their reps after I worked my butt off climbing. Nowadays, they walk in with a 55 or 60 rep. What?? That took me a long time to get that. I'm over it.
I like to see people do well, and I will help people where I can. I see you help people all day long, one of the reasons you are so successful in life. You need to see people working for it and not begging for it and I have come around to that way of thinking. It sits with me better and I think it is better in the long run.
I have learned a lot from you and just so you know, it is appreciated. I missed the question, didn't I? ;)
Me too, he seemed like a good one but it's so hard to know. I was most pleased to drop 100% downvotes on him once he was exposed though.
You're a builder, definitely.
Legit Swigs, I agree completely. I just clicked over to a rep of 81 organically, no buy of rep or votes, and I wonder if people actually know how damned difficult it is.
I'm really pleased to see your second-last paragraph; it made me smile. I do what I do, some notice and others just see me downvoting bad actors, and try to penalise me for it. That comes with the territory though, and every time I return rewards to the pool I think of the person who probably deserves it more than who I took it from. That's how I deal with it in my head. I'm also pleased to know that you need to see people working for the rewards you give the, or the general support. A blockchain that does otherwise won't last long. Still, the opposite happens as some accounts don't care, they just want the curation. It's not my style though.
And I you. Sometimes you've tempered my more...shall we say hardcore reactions and responses. What would the Swigly one do has come to mind a few times. So, thank you.
You totally did. Spazz. But it's ok, you know I don't mind, the response was more than valid regardless.
Im agreed with you, every house has rules and we must act in order to it.
People have to adapt to fit in the communities and fuck those breakers, they have to learn how to act properly. I'm glad that at least in hive People stop them, because other whise they will keep feeling they're doing it right while it is the opposite.
On the other hand, I liked reading what you say because it made me feel like I was on the right track, making comments, joining communities and engaging.
Some communities are not monitored and administrated and that's ok. Mine is though, and I will advise someone if they have not followed rules. Most are ok about it. I feel absolutely no remorse in addressing those who rant at me though, and often I make a point of making my point rather firmly.
I'm glad you feel you're on track. It's a really simple formula. Post well, outbound commenting and follow the accepted rules. It's not too difficult.
The world is full of very different types of people as you say, but to be honest, those that you speak of who are happy to tear things down just because they throw a tantrum and don't get their way? Well, which universe are they living in because life doesn't work like that.
Each of us has that choice - to take ownership or to shift blame for our own mistakes. If you aren't willing to right your own wrongs through effort to do better, then you'll be dumped in with the others just like you and I doubt that's a very fun place to be.
People tend to be treated commensurate to the behaviours they display and that's what I react to also.
Do the wrong thing in my community and it'll be addressed. Rectify it and there's no issue. Rant at me and there'll be action, I can assure you.
The thing is, as I've said before, I don't give a fuck if no one but me posts in my communities. I created them for me. If people want to share them with me that's ok of course, but they will abide by my rules. I don't force people to post in them and there are other places they can go...I don't understand how people feel it's legit to come along and fuck up my house and then rant about being addressed. Wankers.
I totally get it. It's just so bizarro world like that these people can't see the errors of their ways. Makes me lift my eyebrows. Your communities are great because you work hard at keeping them that way. These people need to learn to have a little respect for other people's space.
Makes me (want to) lift my axe...then drop it with force in a well-aimed manner.
They will not.
I’m so glad I took the time to build a good solid foundation years ago because even though the roof might be leaking these days and there is a draft inside, the foundation can withstand until I get to fixing those.
I wonder if there are any new people that can build a space and feel at home here, somehow I think it might be way harder now.
There's always someone out there to judge favourably or unfavourably but if the user feels their platform is strong then that's what matters; I'd say yours is Eve.
I think it's much more difficult to build a brand here for many reasons. The influx of people has brought so many scammers that it's very difficult to trust people and support them, for me at least. You may recall an account called thenortherner who everyone flocked to, myself included...then...He was discovered to have been stealing images...and his account was smashed to smithereens. It's so difficult to know.
It's for this reason people stay in their lanes and approach newbies with caution, and that makes it difficult for them to build their accounts. I persist though, curate and encourage, and also downvote those I deem require it as is my right. Ultimately, users need to work hard to build, and aindont think it's ever been easy. It certainly wasn't for me.
I sat eating !popcorn as the latest "breaker" derailed his Hive train while feeling all good about himself. (WAI) what an idiot)
I see he went to "spurt, blurt or squirt?" Whatever it is called, and is still acting like a child throwing a tantrum, name calling and feeling like he is "all that special".
W.A.I. (lol)
It did trouble me that he went right to the race card like so many weak people always do.
All my life I have seen this behavior and have never let myself be. "that guy"
What a different world it would be if there were no skin pigment and we were all identical twins.
I wonder what the weak minded would use to devide us all then..?
Lol, yeah apparently I have my own tag over on blurt where they denigrate me. Whilst they're doing so they're leaving some other fucker alone I guess though. My (pretty fucken amazing life) will go on, unimpeded. 😊
I didn't realise you saw it all actually, but yeah man, that race card always seems like a good idea, but it's not. I was born and bred in Australia, as you know, and as a brownish dude (delectable mocha actually) I was subjected to the race thing. I never pulled out the fucken race card though, that way lies...well, cuntactery.
Anyway, I have a post on trucks coming tomorrow. Dirty prime movers. Maybe you'll see it if you have time.
Have a bonza weekend.
Step it up bro...
I am.
My latest project.
Cement steps. (Fuck'n termites gonna break a tooth on these) lol
#fuckdemtermites
I feel your silent rage.... seems you are a busy man outside hive too..so that explains you keeping a rule that everyone needs to adhere to for a swift operation.
You also have been there for many folks always nudging them and replying comments....I likes that.
Well, some folks feel entitled to their foolishness and sick mentality whereas if they look out from their own view they would know what they lack.
Growing accounts is very important to every user in the blockchain... including my very self ... nothing good comes easy right???....so much efforts and commitment need to be applied to boost an account...I know that is true.
I'm glad I read this !💪🏼
Lol, silent rage wouldn't seem so silent if you could hear what I say about these people in real life. And yes, I'm busy outside Hive, very busy. Hive is my downtime, relaxation, but I still take it seriously.
Thanks for noticing that I'm there to help people. Part of that is keeping my communities looking good so that others have a place they're also happy to post into. I don't feel guilty in the last bit when I mute a post there, I'm merely reacting to the choice a person made not to read and follow the community guidelines. If/when they start complaining, I explain myself clearly, when they start ranting the downvotes rain down, and may continue for a while. It's a simple formula and process for me...all enacted because of the individual's initial choices.
All of that can be avoided by reading the rules, or a heartfelt apology and rectification of their post. Some like to rant though, and so I'm content to send their rewards back to the reward pool for others to earn. This is my way. In real life, I'm not the sort of person who responds well to being ranted at by entitled, selfish ignorant people who have done the wrong thing, so I don't like it here either.
Hehe... I understand the side talks in real life... that's simply the stress of not following rules boiling inside of you. You sound like a disciplinarian hehe...super dad💪🏼
I'm not a dad, but I have been one to follow discipline set by others and myself; I attribute the discipline I show for helping me achieve that which I have set out to do.
I don't know why people don't follow community guidelines and rules, reading the rules first and then abiding by them makes things way easier.
Why go through the extra hassle? Just because this is a "decentralized" platform and space doesn't mean you get to do whatever you want and however you want to. Centralized or decentralized, there are rules in every space and forms of social media; luckily, over here people get out the easy way, all admin can really do is down vote or mute, on centralized platforms you get the BAN HAMMER, straight up lol. 🔨
Yeah, I've muted a few posts from my communities because they've not followed the guide. I rarely downvote them although if the text in those posts is then subsequently deleted by the author I do downvote them. A post that says deleted as the only text doesn't deserve rewards.
I don't really understand those who choose to post into someone's community, don't wrong and then rant about being addressed for it. This happens right across the various communities, certainly the ones that are monitored, and the person posting incorrectly only has themselves to blame.
I like the sound of the ban hammer but I'd opt for a ban axe, Viking style. 😂
Many of us are used to the ban hammer, especially if it's an app under Meta; you go a bit left or right against the community guidelines and BOOOMMM 💣 BAN HAMMER. 🔨
It's funny really, you can't even speak your mind in these platforms anymore, it's mostly memes and jokes on there nowadays. People have stopped taking it all seriously, and only use these apps for communication and a bit of clowning around. Because even the slightest offense leads towards a month long ban, it doesn't even have to be anything "explicit".
I don't know if it's all controlled by AI or real people behind the scenes, but whatever or whoever it is, they are just too sensitive when it comes to monitoring content on these platforms. Most of these users are adults, and people sign up with their age and e-mails too, so why apply such a strong filter?
They probably even have a list, and if you get your name on there, then your account will be monitored 24/7. I know a few people who can barely even use the word "fuck", because if they do, then they get hammered straight to BAN-HALLA in just a few hours. 🔨😂
Fucking fuckety fuckballs...
[Waits to be banned]
Fucken fuckeroony...
[Waits to be banned]
Fuckdidly fuckerzeroni fuckdingleringely...
[Still not banned]
I must be doing something wrong. 🤣
I don't have Facebook and Instagram or any other social media so I don't know what goes on there, but I've heard they ban people. I think hive is good in that way, but, rules still need to apply. Sure, people can say and do what they like, I don't want to see it another way...But just as someone feels they can come into my community and act as they see fit, so can I in addressing them. Freedom of choice goes both ways.
People that think they can do as they please and then rant about other people doing as they please are fucken fucking fuckers...
[Waits to be banned]
[Waits to be banned]
Only if Meta was behind Hive, the ban-hammer would've drop from the top of Burj Khalifa for this comment. 😂
Lol. I'd see it coming, take it on my shield, and counter-strike with my axe...and from there it's, job done.
HELL YEAHHH... ⚔️
For sure it takes time, sweat and hopefully not but sometimes, tears, to build a Hive account. I was just reminiscing the other day in a comment with someone that I remember, and have screenshots, when back on the old chain I was at 0 staked power, with a small delegation. I was proud of the .2 power I had accumulated and some dollars in the account valuation area. Thinking of it today, would I have any idea those 4 years ago that I'd be holding 23,000 of those staked units?! Hell no! Lol.
I think some are too accustomed to the shitshow that is fakebook, twatter and the others out there. They are used to doing anything willy-nilly and then having no consequences for it. I bet those people who get on the other end of a down vote hammer or mute button end up quitting and going back to the shitshow that is fakebook. Their fault, I reckon.
I've had some really great people that I've started to interact with, new users here on the chain. Some weren't sure of how things go as far as etiquette so I am trying to help them understand what I can so that they can turn into what I think are exceptional people, time will only tell though. One dude doesn't speak good English and would give me the short "nice post" comment on my posts, I was gonna hit em with a snarky remark but I try to check them out first and then realized he didn't speak English but was powering up a bunch and only been here a few months so I'm glad I hesitated and gave him the benefit of the doubt! He seems like a builder for sure, so I'm hoping to foster him a bit and hope the seed takes in the ground.
It's fun to watch the rage quitters though, storming off like a petulant child.
I know what you mean, I look at my own stake at pushing on to 160,000 and think how bonkers it is, and how far away that seemed when I began in June 2017. I've not taken any out other than to trade, increase and put back so that helps, as well as curation rewards. 87K of author rewards and 26K of curation rewards over that time...numbers I couldn't even imagine back then.
The rage quitters are rather laughable right? The self-damage they do is of no consequence, but the damage they do as they exit the Hive community is there also, unfortunately. They go to other places and talk smack, always leaving out the details to suit their own ends, and damage occurs. Did you know I have my own tag on Blurt where they say disgusting things? I've not seen it as I never look at Blurt but have been told it's there. I don't care though, those people all deserve each other.
Been on Hive around 1 year, not sure if I am considered new or old. Haha. This whole concept was pretty new to me when I started and now I just treat it as a place to hone my writing skills, make friends and communicate with the rest of the world.
This seems a good way to use it. And, to someone who has been around for over five years, you're new. To someone who has been around for a month, you're old. It's all relative.
Well I believe the fact that we all are from different countries, different family with different mindset which means we all have different ideas of how development is
To me I believe with patience, hardworking and quality content one can develop his or account here on Hive
Though it's not that easy as it sounds but if you don't quit you will definitely develop your account
Because sometimes I get tired of running up and down here but the fact that I need to develop myself here I couldn't give up or quit
I can see you've only been around here since about August this year so it's good that you understand that it is not easy. I don't know what you mean by, get tired of running up and down here, but it's only through persistence in multiple elements that a person will grow an account here. I can see that you comment here and there (I looked that up) and that's a good way to do it.
Commenting on people's post all around is what I meant by running up and down here
Thanks for your reply always
Oh ok, well if you get tired of it just stop...but considering it's pivotal to building relationships it may be best to continue. Maybe drink a Red Bull for a little boost of energy before you comment several times a day, you might be able to push through then.
Oh ok buddy I will try out the red bull
I love interacting with people online because it helps me get to know more about the platform
No worries, buddy; I reckon Red Bull will do the trick.
Hehehehe 😁 thanks 👍
Haha 😂😂...red bull caught me laughing😆😆...she needs high energy.
given if you make 100 great things and make 1 mistake people will not see or talk about your great things but on one mistake
That is exactly right. Humans make mistakes, there's no doubt, but willful bad acting is something else again.
As a builder I never understand the breakers. Without order everything collapses. If there was no order, maybe I could understand what they are doing, but there are certain rules. If you have the ability to read, you should read and respect. If you don't read, why do you have the right to write? This is something that I am also very angry about. Even if there are no specific rules, why would you post a movie you watch on TV if, for example, in the description of a community it says that the community is about camping. And there are plenty of communities for that. Anyway, some of them are not even worth talking about.
I know right? But people do exactly as you have said here and then rant and rave about how they're being censored when they get muted for it. It's fucken bonkers. You're right though, these people aren't worth worrying about, they eventually disappear and they are rarely remembered.
It's not good to tresspass or break rules, but sometimes it could be an oversight. Depending on who and since I personally can't judge someone I have not met ,if they sincerely apologise for their error, I'll forgive but not without a strict warning.
An interesting take on it.
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