The Joys of Hive

in LeoFinance2 years ago

It has been an interesting few days on Hive, and I thought I would mention a couple aspects that came up, so that perhaps people can discuss them underneath in the comments section.

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Automated posting

It actually started with a friend mentioning a post by someone who was complaining about scheduling several days of posts and then the automation failing. Yes, this is annoying, but not because of the scheduling, but because people who do this are obviously not engaged. And, while scheduling is possibly necessary at times, what it does is shoes that a person doesn't care that much about being relevant to the community, because they are looking so far into the future. For some kinds of content it might be suitable, but even if it posts, if someone isn't checking what they post regularly, it means that they aren't looking to engage either.

There are also risks, similar to what happened a few weeks ago regarding Sandra Bullock whose husband died, six days before that cover was released.

Shitposting

Then, another friend brought to my attention a user who has been around since 2016, shitposting for reward. Now, over the years I haven't been a fan of shitposting per se and there should be some room for it from time to time, but also, it seems that the same user just doesn't give a fuck about the community at all, so I commented and asked them if they had given up putting any effort in at all. However, another very experienced (and staked) user called me out saying that not every post need be full of text. Fair enough.

No comments

However, this person, who had seven posts in the last week, also had zero comments in the same week. Even to the very few people who had dropped some kind of message on their posts, there was still no replies. There is "shitposting" and then there are just shit people. Based on their replies, I think this person might fall into the latter category.

But, I did learn something from them!

Selling out

A new word. I am not hip to all the vocabulary of the young and useless today, but I learned something from one of them. The term "Jeet"

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This person is one of them. They have literally taken out everything of the considerable amount they have earned, which means they haven't given much back. Don't get me wrong, selling some HIVE is okay, but fuck those who sell everything they get.

As someone who has earned a fair bit through posting myself, I am also a proud bagholder of HIVE and have also earned a bit through curation. The thing with earning through curation is that some percentage of that goes to the vote receiver as posting rewards. Over about the last 2 or 3 years it has been 50/50, but before that curation was 25%, with the author getting 75% - this is why so many were self voting.

The people who take everything out, can't reward anyone.

They can't support the topics they care about, or the people who have helped them. they can't give anything to a new user and they can't support a proposal in the DAO - which is possibly a good thing. Because,

Fuck Jeets!

Am I using it right?

The Entitled

For those who are only looking to extract all they can get, no matter what the markets are doing, you do you. But, you are not entitled to anything. It doesn't matter if you have been here since 2016, it doesn't matter if your mommy thinks you are pretty, no one is entitled to anything, other than what the code allows them at any given point in time.

For instance, with the current code I know I am able to earn around about "x-amount" through curation and I know I can vote on witnesses and proposals using that stake to influence outcomes in some way. However, this comes at a cost, because powering up hive and locking it away means losing the opportunity to sell it. The Jeets don't have to worry about this risk, because they have no HIVE.

They take no responsibility.

And, if they don't want to take any responsibility for the outcomes of the platform and the community, and don't give a shit about other members of the community, why the fuck would we be rewarding them? Especially for shit content.

The Joy of Hive

Hive is bloody awesome, but it is also far from perfect. This imperfection means there is a large amount of potential to develop, but it also means that there is a lot of potential for people to take advantage of others. Whenever there is some kind of money involved, there are going to be people who are willing to do something to gain access to it. And, unless there is pushback against the behaviors we don't want to see, they will persist. Worse, if we are rewarding behaviors we don't want to see, we are incentivizing them and increasing the chance of more.

These people might love taking advantage of the community, but should they get away with it, especially when they have so much disdain for the community members themselves?

I don't think so.

But, I might be in the minority. I often am.

What are your thoughts?

As said, Hive is far from perfect, but I do think that we are heading (slowly) in a better direction. If we want to build a strong and valuable community, we have to be somewhat serious about what that actually requires. It doesn't mean that all shitposting is bad, but when it is coming from people who are intentionally taking advantage at the expense of the community with no intention of ever helping anyone else, and aren't even willing to put a little effort into adding something useful...

Fuck them.

What do you think?

Taraz
[ Gen1: Hive ]

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From the start, my advice to newcomers has always been to engage with other peoples' content, insightfully; until you have a couple of hundred followers.
Just putting energy into your posts but never commenting on other people's stuff, is like performing stand-up comedy in your own lounge-room. It can be incredible, but nobody's going to know.

I'm the opposite. I struggle to routinely create content of my own, but I sure do love to chime in and share my views/reactions/experiences. Cheers!

It seems like it shouldn't be too hard to understand how to be part of a community, yet many struggle. Am I just too old?

I believe it is all according to perspective. If there was no financial benefit, I can almost guarantee I would have built up a stake, network or any track record here. I am half ashamed and half proud that I use no automated at all and over 30,000 upvotes were individual and manual. That is definitely not for everyone but works from my perspective.

Everyone has a different amount of time to read and network and curate but I believe there is a place for everyone there. Anyone who cares can look into habits and interactions of anyone they discover and use that to make different decisions based upon their perspective (to different effect based on that stake).

I do find veterans who sell chunks of their stake at times behave differently before and after. Some have their big stakes, vote with small percentages and engage sparingly because they are the ones who have the attention worth chasing. Then, they cash in and suddenly are curating, engaging and are suddenly keen to earn the exposure and rewards now that they have a stake to make up.

I also see people like back in 2018 replying to every post they can find with quantity as the primary objective to get those reply author rewards.

The truth is I want to be friends with and support those who have a large stake (not exclusively though as my organically earned stake is a result of veterans supporting me while I was getting my feet set.

Things that bug me is when people say Hive is shit because their perspective is based on frustration for an outcome that impacts them. When veterans become stewards but take it too far and become prison guards by auto downvoting someone into quitting for an apparent infraction (even if it is corrected.)

Truth is Hive is pretty damn good and the strength and weakness is that it is dictated by people. People gonna peep and a benevolent dictator never stays benevolent in my experience.

Anyhow, the Jeets will always leave. They can learn their lessons and change and come back to be quality content creators, Engagers and networkers. Their decision and I will simply look to support the builders no matter how many jeets flash in the pan.

Anyone who cares can look into habits and interactions of anyone they discover and use that to make different decisions based upon their perspective (to different effect based on that stake).

Yes. And there are a massive amount of behaviors to observe. Not all are acceptable for a community.

I do find veterans who sell chunks of their stake at times behave differently before and after.

I hope to sell a chunk one day, then buy back a larger chunk after. I would like there to be a continual growth of people who want to be here, who want to support others and want to take the risk, and try for a different result. Too many are using it as a tap into fiat, rather than a hedge against it.

I also see people like back in 2018 replying to every post they can find with quantity as the primary objective to get those reply author rewards.

I was talking to a couple friends the other day about these. You will see this behavior on my account too, as I reward comments. However, I don't mind as long as they are engaging well enough and what they add is relevant. Many won't earn from posting, but they can still earn from engaging well. Most days, I give people two posts to engage with and they can earn a bit that they wouldn't otherwise from having a read and taking 5 minutes to comment.

You obviously took more than five minutes with this one!

The truth is I want to be friends with and support those who have a large stake

Of course you do and so you should. Most of the people with large stake that are active, are also ones who care about Hive, because they haven't sold out. If you are interested in learning physics, you don't hang out with bakers. If you are interested in fitness, you don't hang out with meth addicts.

When veterans become stewards but take it too far and become prison guards by auto downvoting someone into quitting for an apparent infraction (even if it is corrected.)

Yes. This can be annoying too. At the same time, someone like this person (who I didn't downvote) has treated the community very badly, including the stakeholders that have supported them for years.

Power always corrupts, because of our genetic coding. But, our coding can also create new code, at least at the blockchain level :)

It happens with the old accounts. They get used to getting rewards but start to resent putting in any effort for their daily money. Entitled dicks!

And the entitlement makes them feel like even when called out, they are hard done by. So many of these people had an opportunity others would have loved, and squandered it.

Yeah, the old. but other people have earned more... wah!

That was definitely a new way in my eyes from lashing out at the community protecting the value of their investment. It's weird to think that in their mind calling them "bagholders", the same people that make your rewards you've been somewhat farming daily possible, as a bad thing. That person is definitely not in it for the tech, lol.

I don't know what they were like at the start, but their response to the comments really surprised me. Burned every bridge and piece of goodwill gathered in 7 years, in minutes.

Over what, a few downvotes? While at the same time bragging about how you didn't hold and sold the top and you'd "only" have $30k if u had held all the way. It's some weird psychology, makes me wonder if they're okay mentally.

makes me wonder if they're okay mentally.

Yes. It was very strange - especially considering we have talked before. Not some complete stranger. Perhaps they just knew they are full of shit.

It's staggering the amount that particular person cashed out, and not pleasant in some of the comments, thankfully I've never been one to trust a sweet smile.

Also quite a bad time to cash out IMO!

Pretty crazy ramp-up on those comments!

I had to go and check out who you were referring to, and then I came back to this post and saw the title. Nice one 🙃

I think for some it becomes a habit to post because it only takes them 5 minutes in return for a few bucks. What's not to like? There's another old user, used to be a 'community leader' leading a team in quite a major project, was shit posting big time for ages, even bigger than the user in your post, but no one seemed to care. Now she just shit post actifit posts everyday with 40 words and zero engagement, and is lucky if she gets 20c. It really baffles me why she bothers. Must lead a very sad life

ps, You didn't read the profile description of said user? 😀 Not that it justifies the action

OOhhh.. now I am interested who it is! :D

ps, You didn't read the profile description of said user? 😀 Not that it justifies the action

Oh, I read it. Shitposting isn't the issue. I know plenty of people who add value and shitpost - this is not that though. This is just intentional trash for a few dollars she doesn't deserve. Just because she is an old account, it doesn't excuse the disdain for the community.

OOhhh.. now I am interested who it is! :D

She's a nobody now, probably still reminiscing the old days on how she milked the system

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I've been here for 2 months and I'm trying to use this place as actively as possible. There are some situations I've noticed and I'd like to share them:

  • I feel like no one is reading the posts I share (a few people are reading)

  • The posts I share are either upvoted or passed over without being read

  • There are 10 big rewarding accounts on the platform and a lot of users who have connected their votes to the automatic voting that follows their votes. (trail)

  • If the post doesn't get the attention of one of these big 10 users, organically, being read and supported by users, it's not satisfying because I feel like there are very few people who do that.

  • These big accounts are auto-voting for certain users, I feel like newcomers don't stand a chance

These are my thoughts and observations. I just wrote to share and get ideas. Thank you

I feel like no one is reading the posts I share (a few people are reading)

It isn't easy to get readership. Took me a while and there were far less people at that time, and the quality was lower.

The posts I share are either upvoted or passed over without being read

Try using dedicated communities and spending time engaging with people in those too.

There are 10 big rewarding accounts on the platform and a lot of users who have connected their votes to the automatic voting that follows their votes. (trail)

A lot of small voters follow trails - but the larger accounts tend not to.

If the post doesn't get the attention of one of these big 10 users, organically, being read and supported by users, it's not satisfying because I feel like there are very few people who do that.

The most compelling thing, is to have engaging conversations about our posts, right? This is something everyone should consider more. I know that it looks easy for me to say, because I get a lot of comments, but it has taken awhile to get to this point and it isn't only from posting about what I am the most interested in. It is an interesting place - lots to learn and discover.

These big accounts are auto-voting for certain users, I feel like newcomers don't stand a chance

It is hard. But, there is a chance. For instance, you have been here two months and have a rep of 61, which is dictated through staked votes. Back in the day, there are accounts that are years old that haven't made it that far yet :)

Engagement goes both ways, if you don't care about other people's content then most likely they'll won't care about yours (except if you have a shit ton of hive you're curating with).
Sometimes I have to go off hive for a week or two because I've got quite a lot to do. Whenever I come back and see my account without meaningful notifications, I realize you only get the value that you give.

Sadly I don't think anything can be done for people who shitpost as you call it, because a lot of them are quite older accounts and some might not put in as much effort as before since the curations keeping coming in.

Engagement does go both ways for sure. It is frustrating when people won't even respond to the messages they get on their own content.

Something can always be done. It isn't without its risks though :)

I think diversification is the best way to keep things interesting.

I share my opinions and views most of the time, a few blogs maybe, a bit of photography if I find myself in some "aesthetic" place, sometimes it's gaming, every now and then it's food.

That's how I live life, and that's exactly what I share. No one else can live, nor do it like I do. Surprisingly, a handful of people actually like what I have to say and share, they at least find some value. And that's what keeps me coming back for more.

We really don't have to follow some theme or genre, it can be anything and everything.

But some people just take it too seriously. They see it as if it's a job, and just like the regular jobs, they post as if they only have one task or sector to work on.

No one else can live, nor do it like I do.

And this has value, if it can be presented in a way that is interesting, that is engaging.

But some people just take it too seriously. They see it as if it's a job, and just like the regular jobs, they post as if they only have one task or sector to work on.

And some, like the person at the base of this post, don't care at all and treat the people who have supported them like crap.

sad.

it can be presented in a way that is interesting, that is engaging.

This is true engagement. And after all, PeakD is just another social media platform. So, people really should start seeing things that way, and not take things too seriously.

and treat the people who have supported them like crap.

That's just like real life, no? I surely can see it, I've experienced it too. I've guided and helped countless people in so many ways, I never even expected, nor wanted anything in return.

Yet, nowadays many don't even acknowledge those efforts, because right now I'm not doing too well. Now, in a way they think that they're just superior.

There used to be a time when I wanted to fix a lot of things. Including some on hive. Now I reached the position of life where I realized "Let it burn" and I can't fix, I am not batman lol.

On Hive my mantra is - engage, curate, create and make some memories before I fade into the dust. If I can make even one person friend and get them to like few of my views and I liked theirs I suppose it was worth the journey. Money is just a bonus, it's not like Hive is going to pay my bills at this turtle speed. It's a good place to stress release, to be on Hive.

It is a good place to stress relieve. Writing is a good outlet for stress too, as well as reflecting on experience. It isn't about fixing everything, or anything really, but the world is a mess and if we don't take responsibility for some part of it, we are part of the problem.

I stick to my little corner of Hive, folks who post stuff that interests me, and those who find interest in what I post. Like in real life.

Any group of people is going to have members who try to game the system, members who contribute to it, and members who just go along for the ride. I don't think there is any way to stop those who want to game the system in some way. They will find a way no matter what we do to deter them. Like in real life

What I find interesting, and to have value to me, will be of no interest or value to others. That's the way the world turns. So determining which content is deserving of rewards is a personal choice. There are plenty of accounts here who are producing reasonably good content but are, essentially, circle jerked by their friend and family so that they earn preposterous rewards.

I am unfamiliar with any of these accounts that produce shit (different from shitposts, which I believe, in their purest form, have tons of value) because I don't follow them at all. Why waste my time? I understand there is concern that these posts take too much of the rewards pool.

unless there is pushback against the behaviors we don't want to see, they will persist.

Time does pass, and eventually a natural purge of these accounts and their earnings will take place. We don't have to step in force their leaving in most cases. When we do that, we do harm in return.

Time does pass, and eventually a natural purge of these accounts and their earnings will take place.

This actually happens to all. Nothing lasts, right? So, for one reason or another, all accounts will eventually fail. However, that doesn't mean that we should let people treat the place and the community badly.

We are all going to die, it doesn't mean we have to accept murderers.

It is interesting with the good large accounts, because they tend to support content that they themselves might not be so interested in, but they see that others might be interested in it.

It is interesting how Hive would develop if the curatorial ones were 100%. And for the authors there was a system of donations.

I don't think it would work. There has to be a balance between the two. We saw that when it was possible, people were just upvoting their own shit, and the shit of their alts. Some people were selfvoting 10x a day.

I didn't even know that automation was possible, but then, I only post twice a week on this account on average, so there is no need.

Peakd has had a "schedule post" option for years. Leo has it too. It is useful at times. For instance, I have used it sometimes when I have written something I want to engage with quickly in the comment sections, but know I won't have a chance for a few hours. I will schedule it to go up a half hour or so before I know I can get to the comments, so then I can dive straight in.

I see. I could use that when I go in holiday, far away in the wild, with no network cover. Other than that, not much. But I am sure my brother will love it. He he!

Nice analysis but I would add some of the positive elements of Hive, not only the negatives.
This is a "still under construction" project.
It is quite new, as the technology and besides that.
It has suffered and overcome a pretty hard and intense crisis.
It offers a nice way to engage and learn about many aspects of Blockchain and DAOs for those enrolling without any knowledge.
It keeps improving, this is key to improving or killing most of the negative aspects you mentioned in your post.
It offers a nice "living" complement to some users living in struggling countries.

My conclusion after this years is this is quite different from anything we know on Web2 and Web3. There is no social media offering such benefits in Web3 and we can hardly find anything similar in Web3, only Polygon Lenster protocol has started to try to offer something similar to Web2 Twitter but still far away from Hive.

We just need the global crypto market to start its bull cycle, get consistent new users joining, and keep improving the whole ecosystem. To me, Hive is a complete success as it is probably the only no-defi project with a nice user base.

It is different and there are heaps of benefits. Lots of positive and I am far more positive on Hive than most :) The reason this post didn't include many of those was for a specific reason.

Even for a Jeet, it’s got to be painful to sell HIVE for 29 cents.

I don't think they care!

Those kind of people have no place on HIVE, they go away after a while anyway. If I know a user constantly power down and sell HIVE, I don't upvote their posts.

This person has been supported for 7 years! has close to zero in their wallet.

Hive has been working the way it is and has gone through some crazy times. However I do believe there is always room for improvement and along that way to improvement there will be mistakes, abuse and the likes of which if the community holds together and is strong can work towards mitigating these things. That's why I was very excited to see so much talk, learning and general activity from everyone in hive about the possible HBD APR change.

I'm not a fan of anything automated when the system is designed and pushed as a proof of brain concept. Instead you're now pushing towards proof of bot to be honest. Scheduling, curation trails, voter bots etc should all be removed but that's never going to happen. Proof of brain = Proof of work.

There is a space for automation, but there is also a limit on how much is good, before it becomes harmful. For instance, we don't want a world where everyone is unemployed because of automation and AI, but we are heading inevitably that way, because how humans think and evolve. But, even if we had that, we would still want to have some form of activity for ourselves, even if it doesn't compete with the bots.

On Hive, we get a chance to learn and build, showcase our talents and engage with people from all over. Those who are just here to extract - they will never commit to a better future.

Posting on Hive is not as easy as people think - there were times when I put some effort into writing something and nobody cared, there were also times when I wrote some crap and it got likes.

I personally I am not interested in writing long stories with great insights and superb pics. That's probably why I am where I am, so... ;)

I don't mean this in a personal way, but I'm always intrigued when people use the "well I didn't earn anything for a long time when I started", like what are you comparing yourself and hive to? Do you go to youtube and complain your first few uploads aren't earning any ads while Mr Beast is making millions per day? The worst part is they use it to defend their actions later as in "it should be okay for me to shitpost and not care about engaging because I put a lot of effort earlier and didn't get as much as I would've wanted, as much as I'm "entitled" to".

It's just weird behavior all in all, they don't realize that their "no earning" phase early on lead to them earning later, it's an investment much like anywhere else and Hive is one of the best ones at making sure you get something out of it considering how curation works and everyone benefiting from the same ecosystem so they have a vested interest to make sure you stick around as long as you play by their rules, i.e. putting in effort similar to everyone else.

It isn't easy. But, there can be value in aspects of it. It doesn't have to be long, but content should look to at least entertain the audience.

The comment your responding to gave me inspiration to post something lengthy again, think your comment sections are some of the best around to be honest and really consistent. Just thought I'd mention that. :D

I like that there are people discussing things here and from most posts, various people seem to learn or reflect on something different, that they might not have considered earlier. I think there is value in that.


Infinity greets you 🌐
I used to be in steemit
I can say from there was rewarded much mediocrity and spam so much that I got tired I withdrew what I had and went to invest it in cryptocurrencies.
In hive I am trying it to see how it goes 😊
The saying is true.....
there are shitty publications and shitty people especially if you go ONLY FOR THE MONEY.



Le saluda el infinito 🌐
Yo antes estaba en steemit
Puedo decir desde allá se premiaba mucho la mediocridad y el spam tanto que me canse retire lo que tenía y le fui a invertirlo en criptomonedas
En hive lo estoy probando a ver cómo me va 😊
El dicho es cierto.....
** hay publicaciones de mierda y gente de mierda en especial si va SOLO POR EL DINERO**



I can say from there was rewarded much mediocrity and spam so much that I got tired I withdrew

I stayed and tried to make it better. Here we are :)

I saw that as the Titanic 🚢

Shitposting

today I finally made a decision and ordered a microphone. Hopefully it will work well. Will it add value to my let's plays only time will tell. I already miss let's playing. For a short while my content was only youtube shorts and splinterlands battles. It is a bit sad that some of my youtube shorts earned more than let's plays. I can somehow understand why some people would prefer shittposting if it pays better than a normal content. But I want to do what brings me joy. Let's playing even for lesser rewards is more fun than just posting youtube shorts. At some point I might even stop posting splinterlands battles despite them earning the most for me. But for now I still enjoy it enough.

I'm thinking about getting a mic too as I'm about to do a 3rd episode of God of War.

I can somehow understand why some people would prefer shittposting if it pays better than a normal content.

But, when they are called out on it and lose their tap, they cry. This is a community and in a community, behaviors matter. Act like a dick and eventually, someone will chop it off.

If you enjoy posting the battles, post. I do think that Splinterlands has to do a far better job of getting their user base engaging with each other though. So much of the content isn't consumed at all.

However, another very experienced (and staked) user called me out saying that not every post need be full of text. Fair enough.

This is right, especially when those short texts are meaningful enough. There could be one with a long text with no direction to fully grasp what he or she is saying, to me, I call this shitposting.

People are willing to go different means just to milk rewards once money is involved, they don't care about putting in extra efforts or doing something to support the community, they want to earn and take everything out.

Hive is not perfect and I believe we can do everything to support in the best way through our truest engagement and participation here than thinking of getting everything out.

The people who take everything out, can't reward anyone.

Absolutely true 👍

As per the comment part, I think Hive is centered on "give me, I give you back". This means when you do your best to engage on other's posts, they come over to yours. At least this is something I do, and before you know it, those complaining of no comment on their posts would start having loads of it. Another reason may be because such an author do not reply back those who comments which makes people not feel like commenting since they assume the author won't reply them back. So, I want to suggest that people should try their best engaging on others and they will retaliate.

There could be one with a long text with no direction to fully grasp what he or she is saying, to me, I call this shitposting.

Yes - a lot of words can still be shit.

A community requires a balance and give and take, yet many of the takers just expect people to give it to them. Screw that.

That's impossible and can't be done. You don't expect to keep taking without giving. It's total nonsense!

I also see many people on hive who are joined hive 6 year's ago but their post don't receive any comments although curation rewards are good. Maybe those people getting rewards from bots and never try to engage other post.

Hive is amazing if we start to do real engagement on Post of other people 😀

It annoys me when there are people posting daily, getting rewarded daily, but no one consumes what they create at all.

I think it's the same old argument. People abuse the system without putting back in. There isn't anything wrong with scheduling as long as you are also engaging. There's times where you migth be too busy to write a post that day or even that week, but that's okay, so long as there are MORE times you are engaging, joining in challenges, supporting people as you are supported, responding to people who comment regularly on your posts and add value to them, and so on. I think for the most part you'd be preaching to the converted - anyone who is a shit person and thus a shit poster isn't likely to think it applies to them. :)

What is interesting with the scheduling is that sometimes I have really seen it backfire, with the wrong content at the wrong time. It is amusing, when the person doesn't even realize what has happened, as they haven't been around.

Ha, well, hopefully mine hasn't done that :P - I'm not talking about that far in advance, I'm usually like, cool, I have more time today so I'll write that answer for the Weekend Engagement so it can go out Saturday night coz I'm busy Saturday, and I'll get round to engaging Sunday night or Monday when I have time. It's just time management between life and Hive for me - fulfiling committments I have in both spheres.

There's scheduling and scheduling I guess!

Hive is far from perfect but I think it's great as it is. There is room for everyone and I definitely see that there are people who aren't as active here on Hive. I prefer to be active and I still engage with the people who comment on my own posts.

It is worth being active - not for the money, but for the potential of being part of a movement that could very well change the world as we know it. We are entering into a convergence of tech (I should write an article) that should enable far better communities.

I just try to keep my head down and do my own thing. There are always going to be people who want to argue with you and since there are no hard and fast rules for the blockchain, it's really the court of public opinion and you know what they say about opinions...

I've found a good space here where I get support from the people I follow and I do my best to give support in return. I'm not a fan of the abusers and I have no problem with people calling them out. I think my track record speaks for itself as far as my account is concerned.

it's really the court of public opinion and you know what they say about opinions...

Like assholes. Everyone has one.

At the same time, some opinions are worth more than others. It isn't just stake that influences either.

For sure!

Why is someone getting rewarded for consistent spam, token dumping, and ignoring their readers??? Isn't that the exact opposite of what ALL long term curators are searching for?

This post has been manually curated by the VYB curation project

Isn't that the exact opposite of what ALL long term curators are searching for?

Old account, no one paying attention.

Are they autovotes?

I think her frustration comes from not being noticed and her efforts not being recognized. Happens to me every now and then so I guess to all of us.

Some of my writings takes a lot of time and effort and even emotion is poured into it before getting published. I hit some i miss some. Hive isn’t perfect. I think it will never be. There’s leo threads if i am feeling burned out from creating full articles. Or just engage and comment on posts from other community members. For many their main motivation is money. I want money too. But if there’s more money to be made thru the platforms success then all the better.

I think her frustration comes from not being noticed and her efforts not being recognized. Happens to me every now and then so I guess to all of us.

7 years on this blockchain - she knows better.

For many their main motivation is money. I want money too. But if there’s more money to be made thru the platforms success then all the better.

And if the platform's success is being limited by people who are only after money, then they have to improve or leave.

You know how sad it is when you write an article and you spend so much time to write the article but no one cares about it?
It happens very well here but we gotta find our way out

I know exactly what it is like.

Hello, my friend,

Yes, you are very right in what you say, but there is always a but...

In this case, in generalization.

A Spanish sage said, "I am me and my circumstances" Well, I don't know why there are those who write shitty posts, perhaps they don't know how to write, and they try or believe that they are doing it well. Perhaps, I am too naive or indulgent. In any case, I also sometimes complain about the lack of engagement in the community. Sometimes I wonder, do communities really exist in Hive?

It is also true, what you say about the amount of HP in the account. I could say, who bets more, has more right to influence decisions, but here in when I remember Ortega y Gasset the most.

Yes, there is a lot of room for improvement in Hive - a great opportunity to grow and build everyone in his niche.

I also wonder at times, where are the Hive members really at, are they really active, or are they just reflexes on automata trying to maximize profits?

In any case, I still enjoy writing in Hive: an almost regular exercise that helps me improve my skills in narrative fiction, especially in the micro-story mode, and where I often receive feedback to interact accordingly. . In this sense, I have friends through this digital medium that I may never meet in person.

I agree, Hive has its dark spots, but it's still a place for fun.

If they are cashing out every reward then they offer no value to the community and those doing it are obvious to see. Support goes both ways because if everyone was doing it then there would be no growth and totally pointless. Looks like I missed what happened.

Excellent. Greetings.

Wow, this is just a straight to the point content. This content has both helped and served me in three most important and relevant aspects of being in Hive,

knowing more about the undeniable and unavoidable traditions in Hive, which are, making sure we comment on other people's content and interact with as many people as possible,

This content has taught me also on how to flow undisturbed in Hive,

how to be completely happy in Hive getting benefits from people, interacting with people and communities in Hive too.

Thank you @tarazkp for showing us how to be happy and enjoy Hive. Myself being a new person has learnt so much from you just now, thank you!.

Fully agree mate... FUCK the JEETS!

I haven't sold a cent of HIVE unless it was in a transfer to add more Splinterlands assets. To be fair, I am likely very far from utilizing and monetizing my full stack of Hive/HP/HBD. I have my hands full trying to read and comment on your content in a timely manner, I have not done my due diligence to figure out how to fully use my stack. All in due time though, I need to land this next fckn job first!

How different "tha community" is seen in Hive with HP stake and without HP stake eh?

Especially when there is the possibility of automating and depersonalizing every activity you do in it and even so continue earning rewards on autopilot and effortlessly. Isn't it?