Thanks for the mention @steevc, but you should also credit my other account @chrisrice as I'm also that person that doesn't need to be verified and you just have to take my word for it. I'm sure @jeffjagoe can relate to this as he'll believe there's no need to verify identities claiming to be who they are with just a simple as asking them directly on cross platforms.
No, I'm @chrisrice!
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You know what? I believe you already despite not verifying that and knowing how to search for the truth like contacting someone that can possibly prove you're wrong.
I've long thought we could do with some sort of decentralised account verification, something like Keybase provided. Need something that can automatically verify some links we provide point at our Hive account. Hivewatchers have their verification, but it requires manual checking. Just having a trustworthy 'verified' mark on accounts would be worth a lot.
The vouching system is the most simplified form of decentralized verification. Seeing a lot of loopholes can be used against this system it really baffles me how dumb fucks would freely give their info on centralized social media platform to conform vs decentralized platforms where steps to verify can be done in minutes without a drama. Really lacking the proof of brain here.
Ah okay, you were being sarcastic & teasing me, got it @steevc.
But I believe it should be opt-in, not pressured forced, or done in a way that can lead to needlessly harrassing legit users.
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It would be as simple as creating a bot for D.Buzz to see if the user on Hive is indeed the same user as another platform by checking if they have placed a required word (such as "Hive" or their Hive username). 🤨
If verification is "opt-in" like @steevc mentioned, what will happen to those who still don't want to verify despite it being voluntary? 🤔
How about those users who don't have any account in any other platform, such that they won't be able to get a verified tick? 🤔 If users upvote more on "verified" Hive accounts, then Hive users without accounts in other platforms won't be able to verify, and so they will get less votes, despite all their efforts put on Hive. 🤨
Yeah, this is tricky.
Then curators could judge if each person is legit, based on the verification they used.
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Do you think I was harassing a user when I asked them to make a reply on their other social media account like the case mentioned above? The guy clearly faked their profile and it only took me soem conversation off platform to see if they got hive written or know about it. @jeffjagoe disagrees as in his world there's no need for ways to verify users even in decentralized platforms. He gave his private info on centralized platforms freely so why does it become an issue if done on decentralized where you only need to put the word Hive as a requirement?
The harassment I am talking about involves:
The cookie cut #HW's comments including accusations such as "scammer", "plagerist", etc.
Requiring people to join Discord, for off-chain verifcation.
Requiring people to post an apology on their HIVE Profile.
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So my complaints are not really toward you, but more toward the #HW's system, of doing the three things I mentioned in my prior reply.
Posted via Blog | D.BuzzLarge influencers who have 1 million users+ will not appreciate users from #HIVE telling them to manually verify their identity.
So my complaints are not really toward you, but more toward the #HW's system, of doing the three things I mentioned in my prior reply.
Posted via Blog | D.BuzzLarge influencers who have 1 million users+ will not appreciate users from #HIVE telling them to manually verify their identity.
The harassment would come when users refuses to verify their account, but is then pressured, bad mouthed, etc.
But I understand that you don't have better tools yet.
Posted via Blog | D.BuzzIf you backread, I'm planning on creating a verification tool for @dbuzz but have to add other thing 1st.
So how do we know who is legit if they won't verify? See the flaw in your plan?
The same way that you know an image from Google Images is legit at first glance, you don't.
$HIVE is supposed to be Web3, but you are advocating for more policing than what even Google does.
Our verification will likely be the equivalent of a blue checkmark, but it would be done via software, on an opt-in basis, not harrassment.
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How do we know which authoritarian group is the real HIVE verification service?
ENGAGEtokens.I'm lost @steevc and I don't know what @adamada is talking about.
Or what she (he) is talking about.
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I am the real Chris and I don't need to get verified. Sometimes I am Ben or Rupert during Tuesdays. I don't care who makes verification just care whether I'm voting a faker or legit owner of the content. But you gotta take my word for it that I am Chris on the weekends and David on the weekdays as I didn't want to obligate myself to get verified.
I think you can communicate more directly and clear than that, but I understand your sarcasm.
Each "Blue Check" mark, could be referenced to the Web2 Profile that was used to verify.
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For users that decide not to opt in, the ideal scenario is they get less chances of being curated due to the lack of a check mark? Yeah, in an ideal world that would work until some rogue curator with stake just randomly gives out fat votes. There are users like that and don't really give a damn whether they are upvoting stolen content.
Yeah, well that is what Decentralized Mutelists are from, and you can make one:
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I saw that vid, just don't see it getting traction yet on the broader Hive where rogue curation on stolen content is still a thing. Great to have tools like for any platform.
Well, we'll eventually help things like that get traction, by making it more visible on D.Buzz
Posted via D.BuzzThe issue I have is with accounts acting like they are a centralized authorities on #HIVE, when they are not.
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